North Gate Ultras?

PBandG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQ1R8wTE8w&feature=related

Made one of these for pre-match. Used to have them when I lived at UBC for public drinking, worked all the time. Security let me through with it after I was done too!!

piltdownman

We have been handing out plastic cups which helped us pass two police officers on Wednesday without problem.

HolteEnder

I had a copper point at me on Wednesday with my bright red cup in hand. I felt I would have been much more discreet with the can in my hand. But at the end of the day he didnt fine me or ask me to pour it out.

JohnnyRanger · Post edited by JohnnyRanger at 2011-04-08 15:45:28

...because you demonstrated respect by using a cup and "going through the motions" of TRYING to be discreet. I don't honestly think that anyone (Cops/Seniors/kids) think you are drinking anything OTHER than Beer in it, but you are showing responsibility by doing so.

I don't think many (if any) cops WANT to be the heavy and say you can't drink that here, pour it out or I'll cite/arrest you.

They do, however, have a job to do, which means if they saw someone walking with a Holstein tallboy they'd have to ask him to pour it out...

Cups = classy etiquette in a critical mass situation, and the cops won't be d-bags if you use cups and don't act like a drunken arse that they'd be better off dealing with than the rent-a-cops at the stadium.

My humble $0.02

Blue_and_White_Army

Transparent plastic cup filled with stout/porter looks like cola.

Just saying...
~O)

Lord_Bob

Blue_and_White_Army said:
Transparent plastic cup filled with stout/porter looks like cola.

Just saying...
~O)

Transparent plastic cup filled with vodka looks like water. Of course, drain that thing on the march and you won't make it into the stadium.

Whitecats · Post edited by Whitecats at 2011-04-08 18:08:30

Happy to have a raucus in the north end also !!!!! That way we can abuse the opposing team from both ends of the stadium during corners and throw ins, and oh, yes, abuse the ref for bad calls; especially that Senior CRAP unholy Toledo !!!

wallydwall

Srdja_Zivkovic90 said:
HI guys , Im the one that wrote the comment on mls.com

North Gate Ultra's is NOT a hooligan group,

Srdja_Zivkovic90 said:

Srdja_Zivkovic90 said:
we call our selves ULTRAS because many of us are from the balkans (serbia, croatia, bosnia, macedonia,greece)

Any group that peacefully brings together croatians, serbs, bosnians, and macedonians is most definitely not a hooligan group. In fact they should win some kind of peace prize.

IMO the ultras are so important in representing the caps and displaying how good the atmosphere is at empire, especially to the tv audience, seeing as the cameras never cut to the southside during the game (goal celebrations).

come on southside, come ultras, come on la doce

Srdja_Zivkovic90

maybe we will consider joining you guys at oscar's soon enough even though were probly more suited for the plastic cup idea, were hoping to get about 100 ultras to the next game so you will definatly hear us:), any advice on how I can get my megaphone in?

LWO4LIFE

Srdja_Zivkovic90 said:
maybe we will consider joining you guys at oscar's soon enough even though were probly more suited for the plastic cup idea, were hoping to get about 100 ultras to the next game so you will definatly hear us:), any advice on how I can get my megaphone in?

Even if for just the rally and march to the match think yall should make the trip up Hasting pre-match good times and good chanting practice. As for the mega phone... no clue.

Grandstander · Post edited by Grandstander at 2011-04-11 09:16:13

Megaphones aren't allowed or the Southsiders would be using them. They're not allowed. Bring it and it could be confiscated, or you could be tossed. An excerpt from the caps Match Day section:

PROHIBITED ITEMSWeapons of any kindAnything that could be used as a weapon or as a projectileBottles, cups, jugs or cans of any kindFireworks, flares, or other pyrotechnicsAlcoholic beverages of any kind, narcotics or other illegal stimulantsFlagpoles or banner poles of any kindAny sort of animals other than trained guide dogs for the visually impairedAny promotional or commercial materials not pre-approved by managementSpray cans, corrosive, flammable substances, dyes or receptacles containing substances which are harmful to health or are highly flammableMechanically-operated instruments which produce an excessive volume of noise such as megaphones, air or gas-powered hornsLaser pointersVuvuzela hornsComputer or other devices used for the purposes of transmitting or disseminating sound, pictures, descriptions or results of the events via the internet or other forms of mediaOther objects which could compromise public safety and/or harm the reputation of the Event

http://www.whitecapsfc.com/match-day/spectator-information

CEndersby

Srdja_Zivkovic90 said:
maybe we will consider joining you guys at oscar's soon enough even though were probly more suited for the plastic cup idea, were hoping to get about 100 ultras to the next game so you will definatly hear us:), any advice on how I can get my megaphone in?

I suggest talking to the club just say "we are a supporters group and want to use a megaphone to keep us organized can we get a special amendment to the rule" try that maybe can't hurt asking I would also let them know lots of supporter groups use them around the world, I think they're banned just because they don't want everyone bringing them.

piltdownman

You assume the question hasn't been asked.

stilty

I don't see anything wrong with one of these! Lung powered, not mechanical.

Paint one up white/blue with the southsiders logo.

CEndersby

piltdownman said:
You assume the question hasn't been asked.

Yes I did assume, but how much was it pursued? because I still think with the right arguments that they could be swayed to say yes, if you want I can email who ever needs to be emailed and ask them and show them examples why it would be benefiting the group and how it can be used in a positive way.

Whitecats

Common everybody, be nice.. take your agression out on the other team !!!!

chauchi09

stilty said:
I don't see anything wrong with one of these! Lung powered, not mechanical.

Paint one up white/blue with the southsiders logo.

Until a few years ago, I still had a white plastic, blue mouthpieced Whitecaps one of those I got as a kid at old Empire. Logo'd up with oscarmeyer wiener as a sponser & with Oggie oggie oggie written around the big end. they gave those things out back in the day!

Grandstander

scott09 said:

stilty said:
I don't see anything wrong with one of these! Lung powered, not mechanical.

Paint one up white/blue with the southsiders logo.

Until a few years ago, I still had a white plastic, blue mouthpieced Whitecaps one of those I got as a kid at old Empire. Logo'd up with oscarmeyer wiener as a sponser & with Oggie oggie oggie written around the big end. they gave those things out back in the day!

This made me weep in one eye. I had one too! Those were the days...

Blue_and_White_Army

Great job today by the NGU.

capsfan88 · Post edited by capsfan88 at 2011-04-16 22:56:15

Bumped into the NGU after the game. Class act.

I thought they were great today :) Couldn't hear them though :( They're having the same issues with megaphones. They had some good ideas though. I'm glad they're so willing to share

valleywhitecaps

capsfan88 said:
Bumped into the NGU after the game. Class act.

I thought they were great today :) Couldn't hear them though :( They're having the same issues with megaphones. They had some good ideas though. I'm glad they're so willing to share

Yeah they were great again today. On their feet and chanting the entire match. Well done guys.

Bad_Gones

They were interviewed by Carl Valentine during the match. Nice one guys!

Blue_and_White_Army

I think the club should allow all supporters groups to use a megaphone, provided they don't swear with it. I think that would be a fair compromise.

GoF

That rules me out of having it then!

Krammerhead

You can clearly hear them chant "we can't hear you southsiders" on the MLS highlights (and I assume the Sportsnet broadcast) around the 27:35 mark.

SoccerSue

^ We could hear them chanting that in 207 too. I was thinking, "Well, they probably can't hear you either."

:|

Steve · Post edited by Steve at 2011-04-17 19:37:16

I sat on the north side for the New England game, they do a moderate amount of chanting, nothing too impressive. I heard them chant "We can't hear you Southsiders." Likely it was the other way around though. Also when the opposing goal keeper kicked the ball they'd shout "PUTA!" (Spanish: Whore) But hey, the more the merrier in my opinion.

Krammerhead

"Also when the opposing goal keeper kicked the ball they'd shout "PUTA!" (Spanish: Whore)"

Yeah, we did that back in the old days at Swangard when El Paso would come to town.

theo5789

I was in 218 and I could hear the "we can't hear you southsiders chant". It wasn't crystal clear, but it was certainly loud enough to hear across the pitch.

grankovic1

I'm one of the reps for the NGU. Namely, my job is to make sure everyone in our group is cheering and to call them out if they're not.

SoccerSue said:
^ We could hear them chanting that in 207 too. I was thinking, "Well, they probably can't hear you either."

:|

Come help us cheer if you don't think we're loud enough. :)
It's 100 of us versus the whole stadium and our 3rd game as a fan group. Help us grow. Less thinking and more cheering will get the stadium louder.

Steve said:

We shout PUTO. Again, us versus the whole stadium. For the New England game we had 35 people show up as most of us are either at school or at work during the week. If you're basing your opinion on that, you should realize for that particular game we had a less than average showing. So, your opinion is biased because you're not taking all the games into account. What did you think of the Chivas game?

theo5789 said:
I was in 218 and I could hear the "we can't hear you southsiders chant". It wasn't crystal clear, but it was certainly loud enough to hear across the pitch.

Southsiders, I'm sorry but you'll have to be louder next game. We really couldn't hear you. :)

Grandstander

grankovic1 said:
I'm one of the reps for the NGU. Namely, my job is to make sure everyone in our group is cheering and to call them out if they're not.

SoccerSue said:
^ We could hear them chanting that in 207 too. I was thinking, "Well, they probably can't hear you either."

:|

Come help us cheer if you don't think we're loud enough. :)
It's 100 of us versus the whole stadium and our 3rd game as a fan group. Help us grow. Less thinking and more cheering will get the stadium louder.

Steve said:

We shout PUTO. Again, us versus the whole stadium. For the New England game we had 35 people show up as most of us are either at school or at work during the week. If you're basing your opinion on that, you should realize for that particular game we had a less than average showing. So, your opinion is biased because you're not taking all the games into account. What did you think of the Chivas game?

theo5789 said:
I was in 218 and I could hear the "we can't hear you southsiders chant". It wasn't crystal clear, but it was certainly loud enough to hear across the pitch.

Southsiders, I'm sorry but you'll have to be louder next game. We really couldn't hear you. :)

They probably can't hear you either, I can hear you guys because I'm closer to you. You guys need a little more variety because every time you say "Southsiders we can't hear you," it's like you're running out of ideas.

I think your "I believe that we will win!" chant is really good, and somewhat refreshing.

I'm not sure what you mean by "versus the whole stadium." Chanting North Gate Ultras on the way out of the stadium is a bit over the top, but whatever floats your boat.

On the whole a good job and keep it up.

=D>

grankovic1

All I'm referring to is that we're 100 members in a stadium of over 20,000 people. We realize that the whole stadium will not hear us all the time. So, we try to cheer when things quiet down at Empire Field since it is more effective.

We have a couple of songs. We came up with 2 more since the New England game and are constantly working to create something original.

It might be a bit over the top but it gets us noticed. Right now, we need exposure so that we can swell our numbers. Everyone who wants to cheer on the Whitecaps is welcome to join us in section 202 at Empire Field.

LWO4LIFE

grankovic1 said:
All I'm referring to is that we're 100 members in a stadium of over 20,000 people. We realize that the whole stadium will not hear us all the time. So, we try to cheer when things quiet down at Empire Field since it is more effective.

We have a couple of songs. We came up with 2 more since the New England game and are constantly working to create something original.

It might be a bit over the top but it gets us noticed. Right now, we need exposure so that we can swell our numbers. Everyone who wants to cheer on the Whitecaps is welcome to join us in section 202 at Empire Field.

Met you guys at "Ronnies" and as I said there... keep up what your doing, great to see. We may not be able to hear each other but don't stop trying.

krazy

Blue_and_White_Army said:

WhitecapsFutbol said:

Grandstander said:

WhitecapsFutbol said:
There aren't enough Japanese / Asian players in MLS.. Would like to see more.

That's because the J.League and K-League have better players and pay higher salaries.

Not to mention better match atmosphere with lots of away travelling support (although Japan and South Korea are helped by the fact that both are small, densely populated countries with excellent transport systems so it's easy for fans to follow their clubs). I would also say the poor officiating in MLS would be another disincentive for Asian (as well as from elswhere) players from joining if Garber and Co. don't fix that issue soon instead of just sweeping it under the rug.

Blue_and_White_Army

Well, Garber's recent excuse - that referees are appointed by the USSF, not by MLS - is technically correct.

krazy

Blue_and_White_Army said:
Well, Garber's recent excuse - that referees are appointed by the USSF, not by MLS - is technically correct.

He may be right about that, but with the clout/influence that he and the rest of the league have, I (and probably other footie fans) highly doubt it's too hard for the league to press (or at least work with) the USSF to improve the quality of officiating if both the league and USSF are serious about promoting the sport in North America. Then again, as long as the season ticket/sponsorship/expansion fee $$$$ keeps coming in, it's just easier for the league to wash their hands clean of the whole issue than do anything about it :-S

Neeskens1974

"La Doce, in the southwest corner, are mostly Latino. Pretty small group, though."

Small....yet immensely irritating. A buddy spotted me a ticket for the Chivas game next to this group. I noticed that a lot of people are rightly annoyed at the constant incongruous drumming and frankly irritating chanting ('supporting to you toniiiiiiiight'' we're gonna win') - it's enough to give you an aneurism.

I know its meant to replicate the South American experience, but crappy drum-driven beats ALL THE FUCKING TIME is a major headache.

We left at half-time and went to the Southside.

Grandstander

Neeskens1974 said:
"('supporting to you toniiiiiiiight''

This is actually a very good song, when sung with a lot of people and with a little more cohesion. It worked well for us last season when it was introduced, and quickly became a Southsider staple. Some songs are very wordy and don't translate well, but effort is effort.

Your complaint is very similar to that of last season. Everyone liked it, but not next to them. It's the same with the Caps drum group, which they have said will be moved around the stadium on a game to game basis (Thanks Arne).

:-c

Blue_and_White_Army

Ideally the drums should be located on a capo stand in front of the section, not right next to people.

But our club's front office won't even let us use a megaphone, let alone build capo stands.

This is going to take years (sigh).

Blue_and_White_Army

^ And I agree with Grandstander. "Supporting you toniiiiiiight" is actually called "Come on Vancouver", and it's a fantastic chant when done with critical mass. It's based upon "Vamos Chilenos", and was sung in the Southside this past Saturday. It's one of our staples, and will continue to be.

Shahryar

There were a few times during the game on Saturday against Chivas were the NGU looked great! Jumping up and down, and basically setting the tone in the North End. Great Work guys!

Neeskens1974

@Grandstander & Blue & White.

I don't mean to be difficult. And I think you're right that it needs a critical mass to work properly. But when the drums basically outweigh the vocal input then its really tough on the brain!

Neeskens1974

BTW was thinking again about this capo vs. watching game thing.

If some of the key chant initiators stood higher in the stands(very common in Europe....) they would be able to initiate chants and see the game much better.

It's easier for a chant to be heard from above than that it has to travel upwards from below. Less effort from the vocal cords as well.

I reckon way more people will pick up the songs that way as well.

Just a thought but worth a go IMO.

wallydwall · Post edited by wallydwall at 2011-04-18 13:28:46

Neeskens1974 said:

If some of the key chant initiators stood higher in the stands(very common in Europe....) they would be able to initiate chants and see the game much better.

It's easier for a chant to be heard from above than that it has to travel upwards from below. Less effort from the vocal cords as well.

I reckon way more people will pick up the songs that way as well.

Just a thought but worth a go IMO.

Agree 100%. IMO I believe we seriously need to consider this strategy. I can easily here things from many rows behind me, but struggle to hear things that are only 2 in front. Perhaps those who wanted to act as capos could stand in the aisles between 215 / 216 and 216/217 at about row dd. The bonus is that they could have their eyes on the match at all times.

Grandstander

Neeskens1974 said:
@Grandstander & Blue & White.

I don't mean to be difficult. And I think you're right that it needs a critical mass to work properly. But when the drums basically outweigh the vocal input then its really tough on the brain!

Your not being difficult. In the home opener, Bad Gones and myself tried a couple times to start songs in our section only to be drowned out by the Caps drum group. This was an issue before this year. Drums are great, but placement and timing are the keys.

grankovic1

Could someone from the southsiders organizers message me please. I have something to discuss. Cheers.

masster

I noticed that these guys had a megaphone after the game. Good for them getting into the stadium.

capsfan88

masster said:
I noticed that these guys had a megaphone after the game. Good for them getting into the stadium.

They didn't get it in. They had to leave it at Guest Services. I asked :(

Grandstander

masster said:
I noticed that these guys had a megaphone after the game. Good for them getting into the stadium.

I didn't hear a megaphone. However when the play is on the other end and there's a hush over the crowd, I can hear their capo.

NorthsideMike · Post edited by NorthsideMike at 2011-04-21 10:35:13

North Gate Ultras sponsered by BMO?
They seem to be the only one's with the BMO thundersticks

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