Bad_Gones said:
If we can all agree that for the time being the Drum Cafe isn't going anywhere, then:
a) The concern over "random noise" makes it all the more important to work with the Drum Cafe. If the drums can be used to augment the chants then it's a win-win. Dale Cavese will sound amazing with the Drum Cafe.
b) Who gets to determine what "football culture" is? The majority here are taking their expectations from elsewhere in the world. Some from Swangard. Some have no expectations. Hell, there's flame wars all over the forum about us being "too British" or whether or not we should be singing about some Scottish stick.
The point is everyone has brought their own expectations to this dance, and it's time to check them at the door and develop our own culture. Bitch if you want to, but know that continually doing so comes across as being self-entitled. We're here for the team, remember?
starts slow clap
Football is the beautiful game.
It's the sound of leather upon leather, the rustle of netting and the intake of breath before the outpouring of rabid emotion as the striker wheels away.
It's the taste of that first beer of the day, the pie or burger at half time, curry at the end of the night.
Its the hair on the back of your neck standing up as you take your son or daughter to their first game and remember you, as a child looking in amazement at the huge stadium and feeling the raw emotion and power of a full terrace.
But honestly football is mostly just standing next to a billion drums played at incredible decibels of volume and trying not to strangle them, or that pessimistic bloke who constantly puts the team down even when they've just scored. Or standing next to Johnny Canuck in his hockey shirt and listening to him say how 'it's not as good as his team, man united/ac Milan/brazil when he 'supports' them from his living room.'
Do you know what though? I wouldn't swap it for the world.
I'm ready for tomorrow's game.
Robchester_2000 said: Football is the beautiful game.
It's the sound of leather upon leather, the rustle of netting and the intake of breath before the outpouring of rabid emotion as the striker wheels away.
It's the taste of that first beer of the day, the pie or burger at half time, curry at the end of the night.
Its the hair on the back of your neck standing up as you take your son or daughter to their first game and remember you, as a child looking in amazement at the huge stadium and feeling the raw emotion and power of a full terrace.
But honestly football is mostly just standing next to a billion drums played at incredible decibels of volume and trying not to strangle them, or that pessimistic bloke who constantly puts the team down even when they've just scored. Or standing next to Johnny Canuck in his hockey shirt and listening to him say how 'it's not as good as his team, man united/ac Milan/brazil when he 'supports' them from his living room.'
Do you know what though? I wouldn't swap it for the world.
I'm ready for tomorrow's game.
Is this from a movie or something?
If not, this is one of the all-time great posts here.
Fucking eh.
Come on, you caps!
Jay_Duke said:
Robchester_2000 said: Football is the beautiful game.
It's the sound of leather upon leather, the rustle of netting and the intake of breath before the outpouring of rabid emotion as the striker wheels away.
Is this from a movie or something?
If not, this is one of the all-time great posts here.
He borrowed liberally from Garth Brooks' Rodeo:
Well, it's bulls and blood
It's dust and mud
It's the roar of a Sunday crowd
It's the white in his knuckles
The gold in the buckle
He'll win the next go 'round
It's boots and chaps
It's cowboy hats
It's spurs and lattigo
It's the ropes and the reins
And the joy and the pain
And they call the thing rodeo.
Brenton said He borrowed liberally from Garth Brooks' Rodeo:
That's a bit of a stretch. Garth knows nothing of curries. Just ask Joe Cannon.
Still think we should sing "I've got friends in low places" to Joe.
Blue_And_White_Army hit the nail on the head. I agree with every single point, especially the first half of what he said, the front office should've been a bit more lenient with us on this. It's a shame because we were just starting to build a good relationship, hopefully it doesn't halt the improvement.
Drum Cafe, or no Drum Cafe !
I'm pumped for tomorrow !!!!!!! YEEEEHHHHAAAAWWWW !!
Lets go Caps !!!!!!!
Bistchen said: Drum Cafe, or no Drum Cafe !
I'm pumped for tomorrow !!!!!!! YEEEEHHHHAAAAWWWW !!
Lets go Caps !!!!!!!
Fuckin rights.
I was only joking about the vuvuzela's. I will be sitting within spitting distance of the drummers and will give an accurate and unbiased report on how it affected my match day experience. I will undoubtedly be drunk and chances are I wont even notice them.
Drums or no drums, tomorrow will be my first time sitting in the Southside and I am pumped
Jay_Duke said:
Robchester_2000 said: Football is the beautiful game.
It's the sound of leather upon leather, the rustle of netting and the intake of breath before the outpouring of rabid emotion as the striker wheels away.
It's the taste of that first beer of the day, the pie or burger at half time, curry at the end of the night.
Its the hair on the back of your neck standing up as you take your son or daughter to their first game and remember you, as a child looking in amazement at the huge stadium and feeling the raw emotion and power of a full terrace.
But honestly football is mostly just standing next to a billion drums played at incredible decibels of volume and trying not to strangle them, or that pessimistic bloke who constantly puts the team down even when they've just scored. Or standing next to Johnny Canuck in his hockey shirt and listening to him say how 'it's not as good as his team, man united/ac Milan/brazil when he 'supports' them from his living room.'
Do you know what though? I wouldn't swap it for the world.
I'm ready for tomorrow's game.
Is this from a movie or something?
If not, this is one of the all-time great posts here.
Fucking eh.
Come on, you caps!
Nah, I was just feeling all poetic and thought it would be funny to do a contrast of the good and bad of supporting footy, glad you liked it!
Solar said: Drums or no drums, tomorrow will be my first time sitting in the Southside and I am pumped
sitting???! well i bloody hope not ;)
Ok! That wasn't too bad!
I did an informal poll at the half to find out how the majority of people in section 254 felt about the drums. Personally, it didn't bother me at all. almost every person I talked to didn't mind them at all. 50% said they actually enjoyed them. They were trying to get in synch with the SS chants. All in all I'd say that they are a non issue.
I think the drums did a good job. I only noticed once when they kept going for roughly one minute. Out of 93, not bad at all! Good on them for trying to work with the southsiders. I'm fine with them continuing to be there.
In row B of section 251, my first thought about the drum cafe was after I was leaving the stands and saw some of the drums. I didn't even notice them all game from where I was.
Glad to know it turned out to be a non issue. Who'd ave thought...
Yes, kudos to the drum cafe. They kept it simple and tried to play along with the Southsiders for the most part. Only went tribal once or twice.
can't say i noticed drum cafe watching on tv. SS sounded loud often throughout the game. Although there were some weird times when it sounded like you could hear 1 person chanting. maybe a mic issue.
Barely noticed them on TV, unlike a few games last year where they were ruining the game.
I didn't notice them on TV at all. The only crowd noise I could hear was the Southsiders' chants and songs.
Humble Pie Time:
The Drum Cafe kept it to a minimum. When they played they kept it low-key. They obviously filled in when there were lulls. It's not my thing but this I can live with.
The Southside was rocking. Most of 254 on their feet. Great game. Roll on the season.
In fairness they definitely weren't as bad as feared and kudos to them for their efforts. However, it should be noted that their drumming was far more audible at the back of 252 than the Southsiders chants, so it would be wrong to suggest they were a non-factor. I still stand by my position that they're pointless but really do appreciate their efforts in toning it down and trying to work with the fans.
And we have your rage whipping we reactionaries up to a virtual frenzy for scaring the shit out of the Caps in game events team to tone it D o w n.
Well done
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Lefty said: And we have your rage whipping we reactionaries up to a virtual frenzy for scaring the shit out of the Caps in game events team to tone it D o w n.
Well done
I completely Budeiser think that game event frenzy isvirtual toned down . Whipping reactinarys out of caps is well done. Hic..
What your point dexter? :))
Legal_Alien said: In fairness they definitely weren't as bad as feared and kudos to them for their efforts. However, it should be noted that their drumming was far more audible at the back of 252 than the Southsiders chants, so it would be wrong to suggest they were a non-factor. I still stand by my position that they're pointless but really do appreciate their efforts in toning it down and trying to work the fans.
Ya it wasn't that bad but they still did make it harder to hear what is going on at the front a few times.
It didn't bother me like last year though. I give them a thumbs up for trying.
If they were more noticeable than the capos, maybe that had something to do with the top and bottom of the sections being out of sync?
Once I saw where they were seated, I watched them closely to see if there was any friction. They largely seemed to keep quiet and watch what the SS were doing, and matched their drumming to the chants... like the FO was closely monitoring what was being said there.
The biggest thing I noticed was that, by the end of the chants, they were out of time with the SS... being a hack drummer myself, I chalk it up to them actually keeping time, and the SS losing pace as both the beer and chant progressed.
Overall, not worth the fire-and-brimstone that happened earlier in this thread.
Overall, not worth the fire-and-brimstone that happened earlier in this thread.
Indeed
I'm sure the Koreans in 227 would appreciate them ;)
The_Real_Deal said: I'm sure the Koreans in 227 would appreciate them ;)
That was awesome when Y.P. Lee saved the ball from going in the net with his nogin.. They went nuts!
Lord_Bob said: In row B of section 251, my first thought about the drum cafe was after I was leaving the stands and saw some of the drums. I didn't even notice them all game from where I was.
I didn't even know they were playing from 253.
If that's how things are going to be for the season then big kudos to the FO.
Now my main grumbles are the closed roof and the crappy merchandising - which means things are pretty generally pretty good
I was up in row S of 254 near the fence above the player entrances and the drum cafe certainly wasn't an issue. Whenever a chant got going they tried to go along with it.
Sometimes they tried to start a clap clap clap clap etc etc Whitecaps chant when it looked like something else was trying to be done but in fairness, even when they weren't going, with all of the crowd noise, we couldn't even hear the capo's and such from where we were.
If all matches are like yesterday, I would be fine with that. They were barely noticeable.
Drum cafe seemed to work very well, taking their queues from the Southsider's chants.
Ya_beauty can come out of hiding now!
Call me an idealist but can Southsiders constructively suggest a co-operative effort with the drummers? Something like teaching them the chants and getting them in sync with drums emphasizing the percussive aspects and leaving space for the words?
Not sure the best way to do this....meet with the FO or with the drummers themselves...it seems they've been given their own atmospheric agenda. But could they be convinced to syncronize with the Southsiders chants? I can't fathom why not.
However, If this can't be done, they should be down the other end where the fans are pretty much clueless and lacking the atmosphere of the southside.
I will say i've gone into Whitecaps office a few times to make personal communication and each time they've been pretty accommodating...including the time they wrongfully ejected a nearby fan....when I went in to complain and defend him, they were already on the road to reimbursing him.
I could be wrong, and Piltdownman said he's met with them, but somehow i believe in person continued communication with rational explanations/proof to back us up could convince them that Southsiders are a more effective, cohesive method of support/atmosphere generation.
This is something that is already in the works.
paulonius said: Call me an idealist but can Southsiders constructively suggest a co-operative effort with the drummers? Something like teaching them the chants and getting them in sync with drums emphasizing the percussive aspects and leaving space for the words?
Not sure the best way to do this....meet with the FO or with the drummers themselves...it seems they've been given their own atmospheric agenda. But could they be convinced to syncronize with the Southsiders chants? I can't fathom why not.
However, If this can't be done, they should be down the other end where the fans are pretty much clueless and lacking the atmosphere of the southside.
Straw poll around the 254 area amongst ST holders was that it makes way more sense for them to be Northside to fill out noise there. The Southside really has got critical mass now across many sections, even without the drums.
Neeskens1974 said: The Southside really has got critical mass now across many sections, even without the drums.
Agreed! I sat for the first half in the club section, so had a nice view from above. SS is spreading out. Also should note that I did not hear the drummers at all. Also could not hear the capos, but the SS as a collective was very loud.
Jay Duke said:
Its the hair on the back of your neck standing up as you take your son or daughter to their first game and remember you, as a child looking in amazement at the huge stadium and feeling the raw emotion and power of a full terrace.
I experienced this exact moment back in 1979 when my father took me to my first game at Empire Stadium versus the SJ Earthquakes. 'Caps won in OT on a Trevor Whymark header. I then got to live it all over again this past Saturday with my seven year old son. He walked up the steps and into the terrace, looked around, jaw dropped to the floor and exclaimed, "Mamma Mia!". Pure magic!!
Kudos to you Jay_Duke!!
Sincere apologies to Robchester_2000 and to Jay_Duke for my previous post.
The quote:
Its the hair on the back of your neck standing up as you take your son or daughter to their first game and remember you, as a child looking in amazement at the huge stadium and feeling the raw emotion and power of a full terrace.
Should be attritubuted to Robchester_2000.
Kudos to you Robchester_2000!!
ilromanista said: Sincere apologies to Robchester_2000 and to Jay_Duke for my previous post.
The quote:
Its the hair on the back of your neck standing up as you take your son or daughter to their first game and remember you, as a child looking in amazement at the huge stadium and feeling the raw emotion and power of a full terrace.
Should be attritubuted to Robchester_2000.
Kudos to you Robchester_2000!!
No probs! My own experience like that was my dad and me, January 11th 1991, man united v everton. Andrew kanchelskis scored the only goal, but I still remember holding my dads hand as we walked out of the gate into the stadium and just being overawed by how big and loud it was. One of my dads favorite memories too apparently. Damn football gives us incredible moments.
My daughters are still too little, but I can't wait to bring them to a caps game.
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