Seattle Away :: Sat, June 11, 7pm Kickoff

SAFC_Yank

I'll check with a couple of Seattle STHs I know down here, to see if a) there is anything on their tickets indicating you could be removed, and b) whether there are actually away fans in colors on a regular basis in 'normal' sections.

The_Real_Deal

Butch, the big test will be on May 14th @Qwest when the TA desend

EnglishSteve

DistantNorthsider said:

Blue_and_White_Army said:
^ Yeah, in the "home" sections. Away fans there risk getting the punt. That's a long way to travel and a lot of money to spend to risk getting ejected...

I never did my away section tickets from the 500 allocated (waited too late!), but I still intend on going and sitting in the "home" section. I understand I risk getting kicked out, but I'm curious on how they're mandating that. Will they eject me if they see me wearing a Whitecaps shirt/scarf? What if I'm not wearing any Whitecaps gear, but I stand up and clap when the Caps score?

I'm not stupid; I don't plan to start any cheers or sing any Whitecaps songs in the Sounders sections. I just want to sit quietly and cheer when my team scores. I wonder if anyone knows how stringent security will be with this.

And I'm sure there are hundreds of people who will be taking this same risk.

I am going with same intentions as you. Cant see there being any problems.

Blue_and_White_Army

Seattle away tickets are to be picked up at the May 11 or May 28 Whitecaps matches at Empire:

Dear Whitecaps Season Ticket Holders,
Thank you for purchasing tickets to the Whitecaps FC at Seattle Sounders match on Saturday June 11, 2011. We are currently working with Whitecaps FC on the distribution process for tickets, and our goal is to have them ready for pick up at one of the Whitecaps home matches at Empire Field - either on May 11 or 28. Once we have finalized the location and pick up time, we will send you specific details via email. If you are not attending either of these matches, we will make alternate arrangements to ensure you receive your tickets.

As a reminder, everyone crossing the border into the U.S. must have a valid passport.

Sincerely,
UNIGLOBE Vision Travel

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SoccerSue

SAFC_Yank said:
I'll check with a couple of Seattle STHs I know down here, to see if a) there is anything on their tickets indicating you could be removed, and b) whether there are actually away fans in colors on a regular basis in 'normal' sections.

The only away fans I've seen in normal sections have been families/friends of players on the away team. George John's family sits a few rows back from me, for example. And the only time I hear anything from them is when he's introduced and when Dallas scores.

Here's the legalese on the back of the ticket (I highlighted the relevant section):

Standard stuff that pretty much gives them carte blanche.

SAFC_Yank

Mind, according to that, unless you're disorderly, they have to give you a refund. I doubt they'd be quick to pull the trigger on that.

The one response I've received said that nearly every game there's a couple people nearby with opposition shirts on, and there's never really been any incident. One of them was, like you mention, families - it was the Gjertsen lot - apparently it was the only time there's been much banter back-and-forth, and even that was pretty good natured. I seem to recall some problems with them in Montreal games at Swangard.

piltdownman

Just a reminder, still a few spots left on the buses.

http://vancouversouthsiders.bigcartel.com/

The_Real_Deal · Post edited by The_Real_Deal at 2011-05-10 09:21:07

If you want to pick up your ticket for Seattle tomorrow (Wednesday 11th), The Uniglobe tent at Empire is the place, make sure you bring id.

If you cant make tomorrow the last time for collecting will be on 28th v New York Red Bulls

Montana

Gonna be buying anywhere from 6-8 seats on the Southsiders bus to Seattle, just want to confirm though that the guys don't all need to be Southsiders, correct?

stilty

Montana said:
Gonna be buying anywhere from 6-8 seats on the Southsiders bus to Seattle, just want to confirm though that the guys don't all need to be Southsiders, correct?

I'm kinda in the same boat. Will need 2 seats on the bus, maybe 4, but nothing 100% due to work/personal commitments. Hope to have it sorted once I wave hard tickets in their faces and by this weekend.

Same question. not all who buy a seat on the bus need to be SS?

HolteEnder

Montana said:
Gonna be buying anywhere from 6-8 seats on the Southsiders bus to Seattle, just want to confirm though that the guys don't all need to be Southsiders, correct?

I was in the same boat but was told its ok for them not to be SS'ers,

adamn

In case anyone's worried about getting kicked out while sitting outside of the away supporters section, I sent an email somewhat recently to someone in the ticketing office at Seattle. The reply stated that there's no chance we would be removed unless we gave them reason to remove us.

Blue_and_White_Army

For those who picked up their Seattle away tickets at the Uniglobe tent tonight, did you read the accompanying letter from the Whitecaps? No inflatables allowed at Qwest!

:))

The_Real_Deal

Did people who picked up their tickets from Uniglobe read the 'instructions" from the club?

"All visiting supporters must meet at the North East access ramp of Qwest Field no later than 5.30pm"

"escorted by security to our sections"

"....supporters arriving later than 5.30pm may be denied entry into the stadium"

"have to remain for 20 mins after the end of the game...and then escorted out"

Wow.....do they think we are Millwall?

:-|

rovers_adam

Let's hope we don't get the run-around at the border!

i noticed that Uniglobe has cut the price of the trip to $89...

The_Real_Deal

I noticed that too, coincidentally close to our $86 :-?

(although they won't allow booze)

Blue_and_White_Army

^ And no commemorative scarf from Uniglobe!

GoF

Picked my ticket up last night.

Hopefully we're all sitting close together and not interspersed willy nilly amongst families!

I'm in row V.

Bad_Gones

^ Janine & I will yell at you to sit down if that makes you feel better!

Loved the letter. My son couldn't understand why there was such a big deal over being an away fan. Hopefully after this weekend's derby even the MLS will wonder what the big deal was. I doubt it, but I'll hope

The_Real_Deal

and of course they've seated us in a no-alcohol section, so for 90 mins before the game we will be dry 8-|

rodderzzz

we're driving down now, no fuckin way am i standing in the ground two hours before KO! Ive been all over Europe with Liverpool and never had anything so fuckin ridiculous to deal with! We get kept in at Euro aways for about 25 minutes and at Old Trafford for about 45 minutes, but never heard of being in there so early!

moosemaniac

theres no fuckin way i will be in the parking lot 2 hours before k.o.will still be in fados.these morons are not going to ruin my weekend. just tell them you got held up at the border and im sure you will get in no probs

Peacock

But Tractor Boy I had a note attached to our tickets that it is NOT a non-alcohol section. Alcohol will be permitted during the match. :-D :-D

The_Real_Deal

I am only going by what I was told by a Sounders fan

Peacock

And your ticket gives you $2 off a crap haircut at Great Clips ;-)

stilty

The would be fools to not serve 500 visitors. I don't know about you guys, but I easily down 6 beers per match. Say the average will drink 4 beers, and at 500 fans, were talking 2000 beers at the minimum. And if we have to be there two hours ahead of time, I'm guessing we'll be talking 4000 to 6000 beers consumed.

SoccerSue · Post edited by SoccerSue at 2011-05-12 20:18:34

Tractor_Boy said:
I am only going by what I was told by a Sounders fan

...a Sounders fan who thought you were planning to wait and see what happens with the Timbers Army on Saturday before mentioning it to the membership.

:|

SAFC_Yank

Most of the precautions are because the Seattle FO is VERY nervous about the TA visit on Saturday.

While I doubt I'm going to chance it, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the enforcement for us is a little more lax, especially if their fears about Portland aren't realized.

Peacock

...a Sounders fan who thought you were planning to wait and see what happens with the Timbers Army on Saturday before mentioning it to the membership.

:|

Don't be too hard on Tractor Boy...I'm just going by what it says on the ticket. :)

Blue_and_White_Army

Joe Roth wants us to be sober.

:-S

Chris

stilty said:
The would be fools to not serve 500 visitors. I don't know about you guys, but I easily down 6 beers per match. Say the average will drink 4 beers, and at 500 fans, were talking 2000 beers at the minimum. And if we have to be there two hours ahead of time, I'm guessing we'll be talking 4000 to 6000 beers consumed.

In stadium, or out of stadium? Either way, I wish I had the disposable income to drink that much beer.

Bad_Gones

They're assuming the worst. Get used to it because it won't change anytime soon. Be an intoxicated moron at Qwest and it won't ever change.

The_Real_Deal

SoccerSue said:

Tractor_Boy said:
I am only going by what I was told by a Sounders fan

...a Sounders fan who thought you were planning to wait and see what happens with the Timbers Army on Saturday before mentioning it to the membership.

:|

The cat was out of the bag, because of what it says on the ticket.... b-(

SoccerSue

^ Not on MY ticket, LOL!

;-)

I'm sure that automatically prints on tickets for those sections. The signs in the sections are removeable. We shall see tomorrow night. Gotta remember to bring my camera. (And my earplugs.)

GoF

Not sure why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist. It clearly says on the ticket there's been an error and it's NOT a non alcohol section.

piltdownman · Post edited by piltdownman at 2011-05-13 13:42:19

rodderzzz said:
we're driving down now, no fuckin way am i standing in the ground two hours before KO! Ive been all over Europe with Liverpool and never had anything so fuckin ridiculous to deal with! We get kept in at Euro aways for about 25 minutes and at Old Trafford for about 45 minutes, but never heard of being in there so early!

The Sounders FO were pretty adamant that away supporters have to enter the stadium before gates open. We were told that anyone that shows up late will NOT be allowed into the stadium. When asked about border delay's their response was that we better factor that in to our departure time because that is not their problem. I would strongly urge everyone to show up when told to otherwise it is extremely likely you will be watching the match from the bar across the street.

rodderzzz

they are not going to have a few hundred pissed off vancouver fans wondering around the stadium because they didn't turn up two hours before! If safety is REALLY their concern they'd let those fans in to avoid any confrontation anyway

Footy

I guess we will see how this pans out with the Timbers visiting Seattle on saturday.

piltdownman

My guess is the Seattle FO are already slightly pissed off that some Vancouver fans are ignoring the 'Must arrive via bus" rule. I personally wouldn't want to test them.

For comparison Portland is following the rules and everyone will arrive at the stadium via bus. Even people who are local to Seattle are required to meet up at a secret location on the outskirts of town to be bused to the stadium. This was all part of the rules that the Seattle FO had demanded, but Uniglobe has somewhat ignored.

Denham

I am flying into Seattle and my plane lands at 4:50. I'll be going into the stadium late so I guess I'll see what happens.

JohnnieMonster

I cannot stress enough to you guys how seriously you need to take these rules that Seattle is insisting on.

Brett and I have sat down in a face to face meeting with staff from the FO's in Seattle and Portland.

There is absolutely no wiggle room here. Seattle's FO is not fucking around. They are absolutely convinced there is a high risk for a violent incident in the works by allowing us in

They never wanted us in there to begin with, remember? Originally they were only willing to sell 150 seats.

If the instructions from Seattle says "be there at X o'clock" you had damn well better be where you are supposed to be because they will have no problem telling you to take a hike.

piltdownman

The other thing is any violations of the rules will be a strike against the three cascadia supporters groups hope for an increase in the away allocation.

moosemaniac

blockquote rel="JohnnieMonster">I cannot stress enough to you guys how seriously you need to take these rules that Seattle is insisting on.

Brett and I have sat down in a face to face meeting with staff from the FO's in Seattle and Portland.

There is absolutely no wiggle room here. Seattle's FO is not fucking around. They are absolutely convinced there is a high risk for a violent incident in the works by allowing us in

They never wanted us in there to begin with, remember? Originally they were only willing to sell 150 seats.

If the instructions from Seattle says "be there at X o'clock" you had damn well better be where you are supposed to be because they will have no problem telling you to take a hike.

this is absolute b.s.i have been to seattle following caps long before mls including tukwila this pre season without any hint of trouble.what has changed

Blue_and_White_Army

Joe Roth thinks higher quantity = ensured hooliganism. Definitely a non sequitur.

SAFC_Yank

Is Drew Carey still actively involved? Maybe some of his ideas were goofy, but Carey's schtick was all about fan involvement and passion. If he is, then AFTER this has passed, and after we've demonstrated we know how to act and aren't a threat, somebody, perhaps the board, should direct something to Carey, and point out that there's really no solid reason to treat away fans like diseased cattle. It isn't going to strike a cord with Roth or Hannauer, but it might with Carey.

JohnnieMonster

@MooseManiac

What has changed is, quite simply, a bad case of hooligan hysteria by people who do not truly understand supporters generally, and Cascadia supporters specifically.

Case in point: Seattle owner Joe Roth insisting that Vancouver & Portland's away seats at Qwest must be capped at 150 maximum or else (paraphrasing here) "I don't want America's first soccer riot to breakout in the streets of Seattle."

Another: MLS commisioner Don Garber met with the Timbers Army in the preseason for a Q&A session and was quite open about the fact that he doesn't understand why we would want to travel. He questioned why we would all complain about 150 seats, and whether they thought 300 would be sufficient. He was nearly laughed off the stage - Portland was already sending 800 up the I-5 for US Open Cup matches as a USL club.

Another Garber gem from that Portland Q&A (paraphrasing again): "My two biggest fears are 1) violence in the stands and 2) a terrorist attack in our stadiums."

The_Real_Deal

The TA are doing everything by the book, we are not.

The "secret" location Brett is referring to that Portland fans are meeting in Seattle to be picked up by bus is actually Tukwila, Yes...a destination 15 mins away from Qwest. Why?, because as I said they are following the rules....we are not. They have a total of 10 buses, and absolutely no one from Portland is travelling independently.

If, we fuck it up, by some people being late who have travelled independently, ie not in one of the organised buses, and we upset Seattle, you can bet that we will not get 500 tickets for Seattle again.

That may also mean that we set the precedent for Cascadia Cup matches and Seattle may look at our lack of following protocol and decide not to give Portland 500 tickets in the future as well, as they are looking at any excuse not to.

Do we want to upset the TA as well?

My strongest advise to everyone, is to abandon any ideas or plans you have to travel independently and let's do this properly and everyone travel to the match on buses as Seattle have requested.

If people want to travel independently over the border, fine, but meet at somewhere like Lynnwood or Seattle Premium Outlets,and we will arrange for a local bus to take you in and out of Qwest.

http://vancouversouthsiders.bigcartel.com/

moosemaniac

Tractor_Boy said:
The TA are doing everything by the book, we are not.

The "secret" location Brett is referring to that Portland fans are meeting in Seattle to be picked up by bus is actually Tukwila, Yes...a destination 15 mins away from Qwest. Why?, because as I said they are following the rules....we are not. They have a total of 10 buses, and absolutely no one from Portland is travelling independently.

If, we fuck it up, by some people being late who have travelled independently, ie not in one of the organised buses, and we upset Seattle, you can bet that we will not get 500 tickets for Seattle again.

That may also mean that we set the precedent for Cascadia Cup matches and Seattle may look at our lack of following protocol and decide not to give Portland 500 tickets in the future as well, as they are looking at any excuse not to.

Do we want to upset the TA as well?

My strongest advise to everyone, is to abandon any ideas or plans you have to travel independently and let's do this properly and everyone travel to the match on buses as Seattle have requested.

If people want to travel independently over the border, fine, but meet at somewhere like Lynnwood or Seattle Premium Outlets,and we will arrange for a local bus to take you in and out of Qwest.</<br />div>

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problem with that chris is we are staying overnite and have booked hotel.i wonder how many others have done the same. how many bus seats have the southsiders sold?
that will give an indication of how many are travelling independently. personally know of quite a few that are going with tickets bought in seattle sections also

SAFC_Yank

Chris, in my gut I have problems with that idea, but setting that aside ... I don't see how you can even get word out for that concept given the tickets were offered to all season-ticket holders, not just Southsiders. (If the board has contact info for everyone who bought - I stand corrected.)

The_Real_Deal

I'm sure that is what is happening with the TA fans being picked up at Tukwila, There must be many fans staying in Seattle for the weekend.

Although I feel like this is my problem, it isn't really, its our FO who has created the problem by ignoring the rules and selling the tickets to one of their sponsors (Uniglobe) to distribute.

If it all goes "tits up" and we don't get tickets for future Cascadia matches, please remember that this isn't my fault but Roberto Cabrones'

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