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  • BrentonBrenton
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    Overall I think Bonjour has been better than DeMerit this season. A third CB to compete for a starting spot would help both of them.

  • rodderzzzrodderzzz
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    Brenton said: Overall I think Bonjour has been better than DeMerit this season. A third CB to compete for a starting spot would help both of them.

    I would agree with you for sure.

  • GoF said: I think I've solved this one.

    It's Danny Shittu.

    i's, t's, centreback, free agent.

    Good to go with this now.

    If ever it occured that Antonio Valencia signed for Valencia, and David Villa for Aston Villa, we can be sure Danny Shittu is headed to Toronto.

  • MontanaMontana
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    I wouldn't go so far as to say Bonjour has been superior to DeMerit this season, but I do think he's been a bit of an unsung hero and deserves more recognition than he'd received.

    To have success under a cap system one of the key ingredients is players who outperform their contract and I think Bonjour has done that in spades. Kudos to whoever it was in management that tracked him down. We're lucky to have him.

  • tranent13tranent13
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    I agree about Bonjour, as good as Demerit is he constantly puts Bonjour in a bad spot by running out to the wing and most the goals against are caused when the D are stretched wide. Like tonight's game Rochat got pulled out of position and camilo followed Rochats man into the box instead of switching off to the crosser. Experience will come and these goals will become rare.

  • Lord_BobLord_Bob
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    Brenton said: Overall I think Bonjour has been better than DeMerit this season. A third CB to compete for a starting spot would help both of them.

    Bear in mind who we're talking about as our coach. Carlyle Mitchell certainly seems "compete for a starting spot" good, but he doesn't get in. If we got another centre back then one of them would just be epoxied to the bench full time and we'd be having this exact conversation again in a couple of months.

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    > Brenton said:
    > Okay, I actually read the piece. It would appear that you aren't wrong.
  • theonewolftheonewolf
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    We all recognize that this team is one injury away from disaster. I doubt a star player is in the works but I suspect they are working the phones for a versatile defender on the right side. Bonjours size is such an assett and i hope they are looking for players of similar attributes. It may have to be a player that can be described as a project. One of those players who is great one game and very average the next. Ie not a starter.

    Ps. Harvey looks like a great depth guy at this point. Has filled role well.

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  • On June 24 Brenton wrote "All season we've had two big CBs that command the box and deal well with crosses. No need to panic buy" in response to my suggestion that we be looking for a centre back that can deal with crosses and set pieces. I agree that Demerit's wandering has left every other back line player wearing the horns at one time or another this season.

  • Bad_GonesBad_Gones
    Posts: 5,603

    I agree with Brenton. We may need depth at CB, but there's no need to panic. All those clean sheets didn't happen by accident.

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  • SeathanaichSeathanaich
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    The need isn't really for another CB that MR won't play anyway, since we already have one who we've seen play well at MLS level. The need is for MR to play him occassionally, so he (a) gets better, (b) stays sharp, and (c) causes JdM and MB to up their games to stay on the field.

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  • I agree, no need to panic. Having said that, Seathanaich make the point that rings true. MR needs to rotate Mitchell into the lineup for all the reasons stated. Im confident in the management that if there is an opportunity to improve the team anywhere in the lineup they'll do it. Some of our clean sheets have been flukey if not accidental but those are balanced out at the end of the day by games where the Caps have been unlucky. Looking forward to the rest of the season under BR's leadership.

  • BrentonBrenton
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    I think it points to Rennie having little to no trust in Mitchell. He seems to be a last-ditch option. If we brought in a third CB that he wanted (Mitchell wasn't his signing), I think it's far more likely that he would play him.

  • CanadianspurCanadianspur
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    Brenton said: I think it points to Rennie having little to no trust in Mitchell. He seems to be a last-ditch option. If we brought in a third CB that he wanted (Mitchell wasn't his signing), I think it's far more likely that he would play him.

    This is exactly the point. Rennie doesn't trust Mitchell. Mitchell is a gambler and that is not Rennie's style. He made some dangerous passes last year in his limited time on the pitch and we were extremely luckly that they didn;t come back to bite us (not that it would have matter given where we finished). Mitchell is athletic but I question his fottbal brain. We need a steady eddy that can serve as our back-up.

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  • danimaldanimal
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    Canadianspur said:

    Brenton said: I think it points to Rennie having little to no trust in Mitchell. He seems to be a last-ditch option. If we brought in a third CB that he wanted (Mitchell wasn't his signing), I think it's far more likely that he would play him.

    This is exactly the point. Rennie doesn't trust Mitchell. Mitchell is a gambler and that is not Rennie's style. He made some dangerous passes last year in his limited time on the pitch and we were extremely luckly that they didn;t come back to bite us (not that it would have matter given where we finished). Mitchell is athletic but I question his fottbal brain. We need a steady eddy that can serve as our back-up.

    The one match when Rennie tried to mix up the backline vs Revs was a disaster for Mitchell (,Rochat, and Lee).

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  • SAFC_YankSAFC_Yank
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    danimal said:

    Canadianspur said:

    Brenton said: I think it points to Rennie having little to no trust in Mitchell. He seems to be a last-ditch option. If we brought in a third CB that he wanted (Mitchell wasn't his signing), I think it's far more likely that he would play him.

    This is exactly the point. Rennie doesn't trust Mitchell. Mitchell is a gambler and that is not Rennie's style. He made some dangerous passes last year in his limited time on the pitch and we were extremely luckly that they didn;t come back to bite us (not that it would have matter given where we finished). Mitchell is athletic but I question his fottbal brain. We need a steady eddy that can serve as our back-up.

    The one match when Rennie tried to mix up the backline vs Revs was a disaster for Mitchell (,Rochat, and Lee).

    One match. Quite the sample size you've got there.

  • danimaldanimal
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    SAFC_Yank said:

    danimal said:

    Canadianspur said:

    Brenton said: I think it points to Rennie having little to no trust in Mitchell. He seems to be a last-ditch option. If we brought in a third CB that he wanted (Mitchell wasn't his signing), I think it's far more likely that he would play him.

    This is exactly the point. Rennie doesn't trust Mitchell. Mitchell is a gambler and that is not Rennie's style. He made some dangerous passes last year in his limited time on the pitch and we were extremely luckly that they didn;t come back to bite us (not that it would have matter given where we finished). Mitchell is athletic but I question his fottbal brain. We need a steady eddy that can serve as our back-up.

    The one match when Rennie tried to mix up the backline vs Revs was a disaster for Mitchell (,Rochat, and Lee).

    One match. Quite the sample size you've got there.

    It's enough to make Rennie think twice about rotating the centre halves. I don't necessarily agree with it.

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  • danimaldanimal
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    And I would like to see Mitchell playing alongside Bonjour or DeMerit for a match and not Rochat.

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  • prawnsideFCprawnsideFC
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    Yeah he said after that match that he was at fault and he would never make that mistake again...

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  • SAFC_YankSAFC_Yank
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    danimal said:

    SAFC_Yank said:

    danimal said:

    Canadianspur said:

    Brenton said: I think it points to Rennie having little to no trust in Mitchell. He seems to be a last-ditch option. If we brought in a third CB that he wanted (Mitchell wasn't his signing), I think it's far more likely that he would play him.

    This is exactly the point. Rennie doesn't trust Mitchell. Mitchell is a gambler and that is not Rennie's style. He made some dangerous passes last year in his limited time on the pitch and we were extremely luckly that they didn;t come back to bite us (not that it would have matter given where we finished). Mitchell is athletic but I question his fottbal brain. We need a steady eddy that can serve as our back-up.

    The one match when Rennie tried to mix up the backline vs Revs was a disaster for Mitchell (,Rochat, and Lee).

    One match. Quite the sample size you've got there.

    It's enough to make Rennie think twice about rotating the centre halves. I don't necessarily agree with it.

    Understood. I suppose he could take the two Edmonton matches into account, too.

  • CanadianspurCanadianspur
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    SAFC_Yank said:

    danimal said:

    SAFC_Yank said:

    danimal said:

    Canadianspur said:

    Brenton said: I think it points to Rennie having little to no trust in Mitchell. He seems to be a last-ditch option. If we brought in a third CB that he wanted (Mitchell wasn't his signing), I think it's far more likely that he would play him.

    This is exactly the point. Rennie doesn't trust Mitchell. Mitchell is a gambler and that is not Rennie's style. He made some dangerous passes last year in his limited time on the pitch and we were extremely luckly that they didn;t come back to bite us (not that it would have matter given where we finished). Mitchell is athletic but I question his fottbal brain. We need a steady eddy that can serve as our back-up.

    The one match when Rennie tried to mix up the backline vs Revs was a disaster for Mitchell (,Rochat, and Lee).

    One match. Quite the sample size you've got there.

    It's enough to make Rennie think twice about rotating the centre halves. I don't necessarily agree with it.

    Understood. I suppose he could take the two Edmonton matches into account, too.

    And he would have watched the game tape from last season.

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  • bobloblaw17bobloblaw17
    Posts: 181

    Brek Shea not in the lineup tonight. Trade pending?

  • BrentonBrenton
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    Schellas benched him for being a bit of a prick, according to a Dallas sportswriter I heard on a podcast (can't remember which one).

  • ChrisChris
    Posts: 5,223

    Someone start a RUMMOR. I'm bored of Angus McWangus.

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  • LeftyLefty
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    Read GOF's latest AFTN column. Rumors galore.

  • What's the Brazilian version of McWangus?

  • GoFGoF
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    I like to think of them as facts :D

    (and then I'll look particularly dickish come the middle of next week!)

    ETA - ok, semi facts if I pick up the information correctly in the first place! Doh! (see below)

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  • RicoRico
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    Who is the striker who played in England, Spain, and Italy?

    John Carew.

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    :-\"

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  • RicoRico
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    If we sign him, Peter Schaad will be pretty excited, former Villa man.

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  • Bad_GonesBad_Gones
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    And Norwegian to boot! Det er aldri nok nordmenn.

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  • krisaug5krisaug5
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    thealbinowhino said: What's the Brazilian version of McWangus?

    I think I saw someone in the Opening ceremonies (can't remember which country) named Cesar Es Cesare

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  • DC_CapsDC_Caps
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    I've heard that although McWangus is a good player and can provide stiff competition for the opposition team on the field, he can be a dick in the dressing room ...

  • ynwasouthsideynwasouthside
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    thealbinowhino said: What's the Brazilian version of McWangus?

    Joao Grande de Galo?

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  • Whole things decent, but the real fun starts at about 2:15.

    Arshavin.

  • RicoRico
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    StateSide_Cap said:

    Whole things decent, but the real fun starts at about 2:15.

    Arshavin.

    Maybe, Rennie could get Arshavin with window closed, lol

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  • Rico said:

    StateSide_Cap said:

    Whole things decent, but the real fun starts at about 2:15.

    Arshavin.

    Maybe, Rennie could get Arshavin with window closed, lol

    Probably best, you'll upset the neighbors otherwise...

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  • GoFGoF
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    I've tweaked my article due to some misunderstanding on my part.

    It's not a CB we're adding next week, it's a CM apparently! Still get your dancing shoes on and learn some samba moves though :) He's young, has bite and pace. Also not costing Caps much at all when it comes to the salary cap.

    Defender still likely next month. Free agent but not Brazilian!

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  • blazeofgloryblazeofglory
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    Cooool. A new CM and a new defender would be fantastic.

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  • MontanaMontana
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    GoF said: I've tweaked my article due to some misunderstanding on my part.

    It's not a CB we're adding next week, it's a CM apparently! Still get your dancing shoes on and learn some samba moves though :) He's young, has bite and pace. Also not costing Caps much at all when it comes to the salary cap.

    Defender still likely next month. Free agent but not Brazilian!

    Can you elaborate on why you can't mention who the striker is?....

  • ElisantElisant
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    Montana said:

    GoF said: I've tweaked my article due to some misunderstanding on my part.

    It's not a CB we're adding next week, it's a CM apparently! Still get your dancing shoes on and learn some samba moves though :) He's young, has bite and pace. Also not costing Caps much at all when it comes to the salary cap.

    Defender still likely next month. Free agent but not Brazilian!

    Can you elaborate on why you can't mention who the striker is?....

    This ^

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  • KaiKai
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    Read the article. He explains why he won't mention any names.

    http://www.canadiansoccernews.com/content.php?3565-Defensive-lapses-show-need-for-new-depth

  • Jay_DukeJay_Duke
    Posts: 1,483

    So, sorry, did Lensky pick up Brazilian citizenship?

  • MCMLXXIXMCMLXXIX
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    Q: Anyone know what's going on with all the signed players in the Premier League Soccer in India?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_Premier_League_Soccer

  • GoFGoF
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    I didn't want to mention the name as a courtesy to my source who asked me not to just yet, as what I don't know for sure is whether the deal is dead or not.

    Gave a lot of hints though, which Rico then guessed. So technically, it didn't come from me :D

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  • capsclown123capsclown123
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    GoF said: I've tweaked my article due to some misunderstanding on my part.

    It's not a CB we're adding next week, it's a CM apparently! Still get your dancing shoes on and learn some samba moves though :) He's young, has bite and pace. Also not costing Caps much at all when it comes to the salary cap.

    Defender still likely next month. Free agent but not Brazilian!

    Give us a hint. What country? Don't tease us.

  • ZuricapsZuricaps
    Posts: 10

    GoF said: I didn't want to mention the name as a courtesy to my source who asked me not to just yet, as what I don't know for sure is whether the deal is dead or not.

    Gave a lot of hints though, which Rico then guessed. So technically, it didn't come from me :D

    Found this at hfboards:

    "On the subject of international transfers....looks like one of the players the Caps were looking at in the last week was Canadian/Scottish international Iain Hume (currently playing for Preston North End FC). Rumour was that the Caps had put in a $200,000 bid for his services and PNE were going to terminate his contract. It fell through apparently. One link below...

    http://www.pne-online.net/forum/showthread.php?74301-Iain-Hume-s-Contract-terminated

    Also, according to a writer who posts on a Caps related message board...the Caps also were also looking at Norwegian striker John Carew, but nothing materialized.

    Finally, the same writer speculates that a centre back will be signed by the Caps next week....a free agent from South America. Mostly for depth purposes..not to replace Bonjour or Demerit on the starting 11."

  • danrikdanrik
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    It must be Ganso

  • GoFGoF
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    I think that writer got that from my now corrected article!

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  • BenicioBenicio
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    GoF said: I think that writer got that from my now corrected article!

    You are correct sir. I've posted on hfboards since that above post and linked your updated article in a new post.

    btw, is the Brazilian midfielder Antonio da Silva by chance? Or Romeu dos Santos? Soares? Tiago Dutra? Give us a hint!!

    Doesn't Ganso still play for Santos FC?

  • danrikdanrik
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    Benicio said:

    GoF said: I think that writer got that from my now corrected article!

    You are correct sir. I've posted on hfboards since that above post and linked your updated article in a new post.

    btw, is the Brazilian midfielder Antonio da Silva by chance? Or Romeu dos Santos? Soares? Tiago Dutra? Give us a hint!!

    Doesn't Ganso still play for Santos FC?

    It was a joke. I don't expect the Whitecaps to pay 40M for a player...

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