valleywhitecaps said: Really don't know why we can't do the Barry Robson chant the same way as we did Eric Hassli. It is way easier and way more catchy that way, and who gives a crap if we did it for Eric - the chant has been used for hundreds of players all over the world - its hardly unique.

Because the people creating the chants are not completely devoid of creativity and vocabulary that they have to settle for saying 4 syllables at a time? Bar-ry Rob-son? Dar-ren Mat-tocks? Ken-ny Mil-ler? Really?

Yes, it's catchy, but so is Super Ken and Oh Barry Barry...

As for making things easy (really? easy?), you add the word SUPER for Kenny Miller's chant and OH for Barry Robson's chant. One word. Just. One.

well the same can be said for the 'we're blue we're white chant', but that seems to have diminished in use as the season's progressed.

itll just take time and a bit of repetition from the core of the group

With the same reasoning we could just do 'we're blue we're white' because everyone knows that and it will have the most participation...Not everyone will know 'come on Vancouver' :)

prawnsideFC said: With the same reasoning we could just do 'we're blue we're white' because everyone knows that and it will have the most participation...Not everyone will know 'come on Vancouver' :)

Not suggesting that we only do one song ... just suggesting that it is fairly ridiculous for everyone to suggest we force fans never to sing Barry Robson's name the way we sang Eric Hassli's.

kyro said: Sat in 253 tonight, a lot of families, and first timers who were there, and had no idea what a support group is. First 3 rows of 253 weren't even standing. Would help 253, if a few from the upper level moved to that section.

Sat in north end few nights ago for first time, no atmosphere at ALL. The club desperately needs a support group there. Not a coincidence north end is always the emptiest part of the stadium. Getting to the point where it hurts the team, and franchise it's so quiet there.

They've designated the north end as the Family Section. As such, how much atmosphere would you expect? I don't think it's realistic to say to a family of 4 that you have to spend $200 to see the team play. Then again, there are also those who don't want to have to stand so that they they can see the game.

JP82 said: they really need to move the drum cafe there next year might lively up that area and the families might like it..

Put the drums there as they were last year and it just kills any possibility of getting something going, because you can't hear a thing from the Southside over them.

I thought the drum cafe was absolutely abysmal tonight. Whether it was us being more quiet or what... I don't know. They seemed to pick up some random beat and throw all attempt at synchronization out the window.

Also, for the first time that I remember, we were left hanging on a "White-Caps" chant from the Curva. Usually they pick it up (as we did from them earlier in the game); this time it was Southside --> rest of the stadium, while the Curva did their own thing.

valleywhitecaps said: Not suggesting that we only do one song ... just suggesting that it is fairly ridiculous for everyone to suggest we force fans never to sing Barry Robson's name the way we sang Eric Hassli's.

We don't force anyone to sing anything. If a few hundred (or thousand) people got together and sang this, there's nothing we could do about it. But given the lack of creativity in the general stadium population, it would probably be more efficient to just chant "White-Caps Play-er clap-clap-clapclapclap"

valleywhitecaps said:

jello24 said:

valleywhitecaps said: Really don't know why we can't do the Barry Robson chant the same way as we did Eric Hassli. It is way easier and way more catchy that way, and who gives a crap if we did it for Eric - the chant has been used for hundreds of players all over the world - its hardly unique.

Because the people creating the chants are not completely devoid of creativity and vocabulary that they have to settle for saying 4 syllables at a time? Bar-ry Rob-son? Dar-ren Mat-tocks? Ken-ny Mil-ler? Really?

Yes, it's catchy, but so is Super Ken and Oh Barry Barry...

As for making things easy (really? easy?), you add the word SUPER for Kenny Miller's chant and OH for Barry Robson's chant. One word. Just. One.

Is the goal not to have more people join in? Everyone knows the Eric Hassli chant - there were hundreds of people trying it out with Barry Robson today - why fight it that's all? Are we planning on retiring the Eric Hassli one now that he's gone and never using that chant for another player? I've chanted the Oh insert name here chant, and the Super insert name here chant a thousand times at other football stadiums, and its fine ... but my point is that if people want to sing Barry Robson's name to the same tune we sang Eric Hassli's name then who cares?

I agree that there's no need to retire the White-caps play-er chant, but at the same vein we shouldn't use it for every player either.

Let's give some people in the crowd credit here. They'll hear our chants for the players and they'll learn. Just like they learn Tssss... BOOM and YFB... its really not hard to pause, have a listen, and follow along.

I don't really care what others sing as long as we sing in a uniform and united fashion. we don't want the boys hearing a mishmash of noise from our side. we can do better than that.

Maybe if we insert a couple of southsiders on the north end to enject some life into that side of the stadium

what happened to the radios we used last year? Would it not be worthwhile to have one in each section ( RCB, CC, SS) for coordination on the bigger songs.

krisaug5 said: Thanks guys for all the input. I did feel that there was a bit of a lack of energy in the second half as well. We do our best down on the field, but we can only be as energetic as you guys help us out with. The Cannon "Boom" and "YFB" are taking monumental strides and I can hear a good fraction of the stadium taking part. That being said, we need FULL participation on ALL the other chants. Pat and I are only 2 people, yelling as loud as we can, to help you guys en masse.

I appreciate all the attention you guys are giving us. Especially when people high up were doing the wrong chant for Barry. I gave a signal, you guys quieted down, and listened to the actual chant. Then we were able to get the entire Southside in unison with the correct chant. (I really do genuinely appreciate that people are following Pat and my lead)

I would personally like to work on this for next match:
- More bouncing/jumping
- Continuing the chants for more than 3 rounds

Thanks guys for all your enthusiasm and hard work. Let's keep it up vs RSL on August 11th!!!

Thanks for posting Kris. I don't need ot really add anything else.

I know it was a Sunday guys and those are the tuffest days to get up for. your efforts are always appreciated and lets bring it even harde for the next match.

Cheers!!!

Our seats are just below the concourse in 248 and the Super Kenny Miller chant was being used but still over-powered by Ken-ny Mil-ler. The Oh Barry Robson chant was inaudible for us.

I think it would really help if we got the RCB on board with the "correct" chants for the new Scots. They start most of the chants/song where we are and could really help to educate the further reaches of the supporters sections.

Curva is mostly ex Southsiders who broke off to do their own thing. RCB also likes to do their own thing. Getting all three groups to co-ordinate is harder than it sounds simply because these other groups have already decided that they don't want to do things the same way as us.

I thought it was fine on sunday. great job again by pat and kris. most of you complainers were probably not singing so it sounds quiet to you!!

and we have tried radios, flags etc before. they did not work. Just watch the capos!! Kris always moves his arms to the beat to the song so you just need to glance at him every few seconds.

can't wait for the 11th.

why peter has to keep spilling his beer is beyond me... ha ha!

why peter has to keep spilling his beer is beyond me... ha ha!

Simple: because of that fat bastard in the net

Bistchen said:

WHERE the hell are the NGU (Noth Gate Ultra's) ?

Or

WHAT the hell happened to them?

Somewhere with Leathers?

dhawk11 said: Maybe if we insert a couple of southsiders on the north end to enject some life into that side of the stadium

If I get seasons tickets with my wife and daughter, this is probably where we will end up. All three of us sing loud and proud so we will bring the party to the family section. Going to make 2 more flags also so we each have one.

And my daughter ( Almost 4 ) loves Spike, goes nuts whenever she sees him. Cried her hart out all the way from BC Place to our parking spot, so it will be good to be in his territory.

Bistchen said:

WHERE the hell are the NGU (Noth Gate Ultra's) ?

Or

WHAT the hell happened to them?

I remember reading somewhere that they were a bunch of exchange students from UBC and SFU. Once the spring semester ended they seemed to get smaller numbers. They also got a hard time from security.

Some of them ended up joining the southside, so hopefully someone can provide a more accurate account.

I think Lenarduzzi said that they are with Leathers but he won't comment on rumours.

morbital said: Why in the eff does Curva ALWAYS sing different songs than the SS, its like they hear the SS and purposely try to start a different chant, it's effing stupid! Watch the Eric Hassli chant on TV, they do a completely different beat and its clearly on purpose and it actually ruined the effect of the chant where I was sitting tonight (207). I know you guys well (Curva) and I know you read this forum, so seriously, what gives, I get it, you want to be distinct, all power to you, I think it's great to have another area of devoted fans in the stadium, but FFS, sometimes unity is needed on chants like this!

You need to start going along with what the Curva starts up then you'll sound better on tv.

Honestly lads, you need to stop going all nazi on what others can and cant do in the ground, they want to do something different and you trying to dictate to them is probably going to make them try even harder to change their chants!

The Curva doesn't react to the match? It seems you have no idea what you're talking about.

rodderzzz said: Honestly lads, you need to stop going all nazi on what others can and cant do in the ground, they want to do something different and you trying to dictate to them is probably going to make them try even harder to change their chants!

Absolutely. There's a reason these groups aren't in ours. There's nothing wrong with that of course.

Surreysider said: Is it just me or does this "different groups different chants" thing seem to be very North American.

Anytime people post videos of groups from other leagues in the world there is a strong united chanting between everyone, in the section/stadium and the result has impressive visuals

I think you'd be surprised in the divergence of what the supporter experience can be like in Europe. In the UK its very common for sets of different fans to Start spontaneous unscripted chants - tifos are uncommon and designated capos unheard of. In Spain there is relatively little large scale singing. Etc. Etc. All these countries have so many variants.

Steve said: By and large, the south side don't sing. There are a lot of people who love the "atmosphere", but don't contribute to it. I don't know if there's anything we can do but just keep singing and singing, and slowly, maybe in 5-10 years, people will join in with us.

I think you're spot on about people wanting to experience the "atmosphere."

I haven't been a SS member for long enough to know the answer to this, so hopefully someone can clarify things for me. Is there any way that the FO would make it so that anyone in say the lower parts of 248-252/3/4 must be SS members to have their season tickets there? Not GA, but just a modified set up?

Further to that, I can't remember what happened last year, but didn't someone on here organize a mass reorganization of the season ticket renewals in the SS, which sort of helped group everyone together? We were able to squeeze into the SS with our tickets last year, but are quite a ways up. Judging by the number of randoms showing up each game in the 5-8 rows ahead of us with Ticketmaster tickets, there should be some way to move us down. I'm fairly certain that we're not the only ones experiencing this either.

shomgotoshi said:

I haven't been a SS member for long enough to know the answer to this, so hopefully someone can clarify things for me. Is there any way that the FO would make it so that anyone in say the lower parts of 248-252/3/4 must be SS members to have their season tickets there? Not GA, but just a modified set up?

Further to that, I can't remember what happened last year, but didn't someone on here organize a mass reorganization of the season ticket renewals in the SS, which sort of helped group everyone together? We were able to squeeze into the SS with our tickets last year, but are quite a ways up. Judging by the number of randoms showing up each game in the 5-8 rows ahead of us with Ticketmaster tickets, there should be some way to move us down. I'm fairly certain that we're not the only ones experiencing this either.

We worked with the FO to concentrate our members for this season, and we'll likely do it again this year.