^ well said sir. =D>

From what i saw of him , that sounds exactly right. Cardiff citys biggest threat in both playoff games against west ham and in the league cup final.I think we have a really good player on our hands, good for 10-15 goals,and he is going to run his socks off ,him and robson are going to be fan faves .

Boris said:

Incidentally, for Bili, you numpty, Cardiff City are a well respected club, with a sizeable imprint on English football, highlighted by two cup final appearances in the last five years. Who are Cardiff City? Take yourself off to the naughty step, have five minutes and admit to eveeryone on this board that your knowledge of football is limited at best. :))

Fingers crossed he will hit the ground running with you guys. All the best and as so many of you seem to know your stuff, please educate poor Bili.

I said I have "heard of" Cardiff City. Sorry - I don't follow the 2nd division of every league on the planet.

Again though - par for the course with those in the UK. The soccer universe revolves around them first and foremost. You must educate yourself on all divisions of Route 1 FA football or else you don't have a clue.

But please educate me Boris - how'd Cardiff City do that last time they were in the top flight?

It's strange how this route 1 FA Football revenue from world-wide TV deals is more than Bundesliga’s and La Liga’s selling of broadcasting rights combined

I did say I was warming up to the deal.

My concern largely stems from our club potentially being narrow-minded in getting only Scottish talent. This is a league that has players like Henry, Nesta, Beckham, Keane, Donovan. Rumoured landing spots for Schevchenko, Dek Piero, Drogba. I am basically saying I am underwhelmed.

Good luck to Cardiff City in the upcoming campaign. Hope to see you in the top flight and take home some silverware. Will follow with one eye on your progress.

You know what, I think I may just do that. In fairness, having read through numerous threads this seems like a good place to hang out occasionally.

As for the ignore function, no need. My mother once said you needed to listen to the dogs barking at times just to appreciate the birdsong. Plenty of good posters on this forum.

Boris said: My mother once said you needed to listen to the dogs barking at times just to appreciate the birdsong.

Your mother is a wise woman. Welcome Boris. Appreciate your insight.

He's only been using 4-2-3-1 for this road trip. Before that it was all 4-3-3.

Boris said: Been reading some of the comments on here regarding Mr Kenny Miller so will give you a true perspective of how his last season in football went. I watched every home game he played in and quite a few away games last season as a Cardiff City season ticket holder.

Incidentally, for Bili, you numpty, Cardiff City are a well respected club, with a sizeable imprint on English football, highlighted by two cup final appearances in the last five years. Who are Cardiff City? Take yourself off to the naughty step, have five minutes and admit to eveeryone on this board that your knowledge of football is limited at best. :))

Ok, Kenny Miller. His goalscoring record was awful towards the end of the season. One goal in twenty two appearances is testament to that fact. However, there are always reasons as to why a player who had been steady, seems to go into decline. Cardiff City had a new manager last season and he changed the way we played. A lot of teams took a long time to figure out our 'new style' which effectively was reliant on a playmaker and one striker. As soon as teams cottoned onto this we were 'found out', the playmaker was squeezed and became almost ineffective and the opportunities to score limited. A missed penalty at Wembley in the League Cup Final undoubtedly affected Kenny's confidence as well. Less chances and more pressure to convert those chances lessened his confidence even more. By the end of the season, he was spent.

However, he is a fantastic player, if he grabs a goal early on for you then you may well have a gem on your hands. Somebody called him lazy? Absolute rubbish, even when his confidence was shot to pieces at the end of the season he never, ever gave less than 100% and does a lot of work off the ball that fans tend not to notice. His workrate is perhaps his strongest point. He never ducked out of a challenge, often put his head in where it hurts and always looks to bring others into the game. He was also used in almost every match, and at his age and with the pace and physicality of the game at Championship level, should have been rested more.

A fact a lot of Cardiff fans overlook is the experience he brought to the squad. We have a young gem of a player called Joe Mason, a young Irish lad who scored in the League Cup FInal. The through ball was played by Kenny Miller. That this young kid progressed so quickly in my opinion owed a lot to what Kenny Miller brought to the club on the training ground, a wealth of experience both domestically and internationally.

Am I sad to see him go? Truthfully, no. His wages were large, reputed to be around 25K a week. For that money we could bring in two or even three players but he goes with my blessing having been a good servant to my club.

Fingers crossed he will hit the ground running with you guys. All the best and as so many of you seem to know your stuff, please educate poor Bili.

Thanks for the perspective and context. Who would you compare him to, someone we may have heard of ... say Keane, Carrol, someone else ....

Posted this on another thread

Hi Guys,

I'm a Cardiff City season ticket holder so I thought I'd give you my thoughts on Kenny Miller to give you a bit of a clue what you are getting.

First of all, to know how good a player is, you need to know a little bit about the league they play in and the team they play for. Cardiff play in the second tier of the English league (The Championship). It's usually a strong competitive league, and in my opinion is better standard than the MLS (no disrespect intended, but that would probably be the perception of most football fan here in the UK). Teams press so you don't have much time on the ball and it's pretty physical. A player moving to the MLS will have an easier time of thing than in the Championship. Cardiff were expected to struggle last season after missing out in the playoffs (to get promoted to the EPL) but we defied all the odds to make the play offs again and research the League Cup final which is the second domestic trophy. We lost to West Ham in the Play Off and lost to Liverpool on penalties in the Cup Final at Wembley. Not bad really. Kenny was essential to our relative success.

Kenny played as a lone striker for us last season. We start off the season like a train but we couldn't keep our form going and slumped after Feb (mainly due to a paper thin squad and lots of games due to the cup run). By the end of the season he was doing a thankless job it I'm honest. The service to him was generally poor and often cut a lone figure up front. Given the circumstances he did a very good job. Our style of play in the last 4 months of the season (lumping it) meant we didn't create that many chances for him.

Miller is a very good striker. He is unbelievably hard working and is very much a team player (the person who said he's lazy clearly knows absolutely nothing). His movement is excellent and will cause defences problems. He can play on the shoulder of the defence- he's not fast but he makes very intelligent runs. He can also play as a lone striker- there was no one better in the Championship at doing this and can hold the ball up. He is a natural finisher and is competitive in the air considering he's not the tallest. If you give him good service he will be and excellent addition. There won't be a many American strikers in the MLS as good.

The reason Kenny get criticised my many Cardiff fan are: He took a while to settle in and looked like a poor signing when he first came into the team He was on big wages here (reported £25,000 a week) and maybe he didn't quite live up to peoples expectations but that is in large part due to our style of play toward the end of the season (see above). He missed a lot of goal scoring changes towards the end of the season. In particular, he missed a golden chance to win the cup final against Liverpool in the last minute of normal time and he missed his spot kick in the penalties. We were winning the shoot out at that stage. Kenny seem to do better in front of goal when he has less time to think about it. Many Cardiff fans have no clue about football and are utter tools

Hope that helps. Feel free to ask any questions

Bluebird1927 said: Miller is a very good striker. He is unbelievably hard working and is very much a team player (the person who said he's lazy clearly knows absolutely nothing). His movement is excellent and will cause defences problems. He can play on the shoulder of the defence- he's not fast but he makes very intelligent runs. He can also play as a lone striker- there was no one better in the Championship at doing this and can hold the ball up. He is a natural finisher and is competitive in the air considering he's not the tallest. If you give him good service he will be and excellent addition. There won't be a many American strikers in the MLS as good.

As a Rangers fan whose watched Miller many times I'd have echo these statements. In 07-08 when we got to the UEFA cup final (I can't remember if it was the Europa League yet), Miller was always deployed as the lone-striker and worked tirelessly. Made great runs that took defenders with him. I could see these runs opening up a lot of space for Mattocks and Richards.

Bluebird1927 said: The reason Kenny get criticised my many Cardiff fan are: He took a while to settle in and looked like a poor signing when he first came into the team He was on big wages here (reported £25,000 a week) and maybe he didn't quite live up to peoples expectations but that is in large part due to our style of play toward the end of the season (see above). He missed a lot of goal scoring changes towards the end of the season. In particular, he missed a golden chance to win the cup final against Liverpool in the last minute of normal time and he missed his spot kick in the penalties. We were winning the shoot out at that stage. Kenny seem to do better in front of goal when he has less time to think about it. Many Cardiff fans have no clue about football and are utter tools

This! While watching games, there's been times when I've asked myself "how did he miss that?" When Miller has a lot of time to think in front of goal or is coming through on goal on his own, he tends to overthink things. Conversely, he's scored some "wonder goals" when the ball breaks to him and its off his foot quickly.

Haven't seen Kenny since his departure from Rangers to Turkey... However he was an absolute goal machine for Rangers, often deployed all alone in Walter's 4-1-4-1

He works his arse off, will often times make runs into two defenders, drawing them away and opening up space for others. Steven Davis used to get LOADS of space through the guts of defences when Miller would do this, I see this being particularly useful with Robson's cannon of a shot if Miller is able to dupe defenders into chasing him away from keeping the middle plugged.

Dido be nice to see you boys back.

The_Real_Deal said:

JohnnyRanger said: Haven't seen Kenny since his departure from Rangers to Turkey... However he was an absolute goal machine for Rangers, often deployed all alone in Walter's 4-1-4-1

He works his arse off, will often times make runs into two defenders, drawing them away and opening up space for others. Steven Davis used to get LOADS of space through the guts of defences when Miller would do this, I see this being particularly useful with Robson's cannon of a shot if Miller is able to dupe defenders into chasing him away from keeping the middle plugged.

Hopefully the two new Scotsman, will finally get you back to a Whitecaps game It's been too long John & Jordan!

It will be nice to see players who bring it every game and leave it on the pitch. Literally.

Our side has certainly played with some urgency this year. They tend not to quit, but I've rarely seen an over the top display of grit and no quit this season, except from Jay DeMerit a couple times.

If that's what your describing in Miller he will be a fan favorite in about a week. And I think all the soccer mums complaining about Robson's arms and on field urging will retreat.

I'm happier than a dog with two dicks.

Lefty said: If that's what your describing in Miller he will be a fan favorite in about a week. And I think all the soccer mums complaining about Robson's arms and on field urging will retreat.

Really?? I thought you had class - my mistake.

Thanks for the insight, Boris...it's most welcome.

Miller has played well for some top sides and captained his country. That alone deserves respect. No one should question his football pedigree.

But I'm always a little skeptical when a MLS team signs a DP mid-season...and in Miller's case, I'm definitely in "show me" mode.

First issue is age, and getting into match fitness. As we've seen before, it could take half a season just to physically get up to speed with everyone else (the upside is if he hits form just as the playoffs arrive).

The second issue is settling in to the league & the city. Can he handle the physical play of MLS when referees ignore obvious hard fouls that would be called at the schoolboy level in the UK? Does he like to hang out at airports? :-) In this league, he better! Can't say I'm worried about rain..

Third is the money...we reinvented our offense to bring him in and limited our DP options for the short term future. That situation, fair or unfair, sets him up for a very short honeymoon period. I hope he does snag a goal or two early, because I don't think it would take long for people here to get nervous.

Most of this , of course, would apply to any team's DP signing. Personally, I don't think it's unfair...this is a business of "what have you done for me lately?", and pedigree only counts for supporters when it includes the club he's currently playing for.

So, Welcome to Vancouver, Kenny Miller! Show us your goals and become part of our history!