Kenny Miller
  • smoothmediasmoothmedia
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    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/football-news/2012/07/14/vancouver-whitecaps-move-to-sign-cardiff-city-striker-kenny-miller-91466-31396331/

    Cardiff City striker Kenny Miller could be on his way to Canada.

    Vancouver Whitecaps are keen to sign Scotland international Miller and Cardiff City will listen to their offer having brought in Slovenian forward Etien Velikonja.

    There would certainly be a big Scottish welcome for Miller if he does move to Vancouver. Head coach Martin Rennie is from Thurso, while assistant Paul Ritchie is a former Scotland international from Kirkcaldy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Miller

    MOD NOTE: Moved to Whitecaps MLS

    Post edited by The_Real_Deal at 2012-07-19 16:19:43
  • shekersshekers
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    Hassli-like...

  • slamoslamo
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    A boy I coach has an uncle who was team mates with Kenny Miller for a few years at Hibernian so we are practically related. :-D

    Post edited by slamo at 2012-07-14 12:26:00
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  • DriveforfiverDriveforfiver
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    I thought that we needed a midfielder. :-S

  • prawnsideFCprawnsideFC
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    Well I dont want to say "I told you so" yet but I did say the new player would be Swiss, Jamaican or Scottish :))

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  • RicoRico
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  • TWFTWF
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    Scottish and Striker do not belong in the same sentence. This is balls.

  • TWFTWF
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    How old is Miller?

  • shekersshekers
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    He has been linked to Huston and Portland recently as well

    http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/cardiff-striker-miller-linked-houston-dynamo-3235081

    http://www.stumptownfooty.com/2012/6/11/3078767/rumor-timbers-targeting-striker-kenny-miller

  • TheRenniesanceTheRenniesance
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    Unimpressed if this is what is gonna happen.

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  • LawmanLawman
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    I don't think our Scottish coach needs to bring in a load of Scottish players, not impressed. this team needs some South American flair.

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  • prawnsideFCprawnsideFC
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    Lawman said: I don't think our Scottish coach needs to bring in a load of Scottish players, not impressed. this team needs some South American flair.

    Like camillo?

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  • LawmanLawman
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    South Amerca doesn't have a population of one, have a check.

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  • ChrisChris
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    I'm gonna get myself a .co.uk domain name and say random shit just to cause freak outs. What's to be upset about? Face it, with a Scottish head coach and a dearth of goals, ANY Scottish player with an ounce of attacking quality is going to be linked here.

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  • danimaldanimal
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    prawnsideFC said:

    Lawman said: I don't think our Scottish coach needs to bring in a load of Scottish players, not impressed. this team needs some South American flair.

    Like camillo?

    Yeah. Like the 'Caps reigning MVP.

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  • RicoRico
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    This would be how you say,... Bollocks?

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  • prawnsideFCprawnsideFC
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    You can't just pick some random kid from South America off the street and expect it to be a success. It is a long process to find the proper player fit...just look at all the kids from south america posting highlight videos of them on the Whitecaps facebook page. One of the problems with getting South American talent is that we don't have as much documentation on their play, where if we choose someone from Europe we have lots of access to video files.

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  • danimaldanimal
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    prawnsideFC said: You can't just pick some random kid from South America off the street and expect it to be a success. It is a long process to find the proper player fit...just look at all the kids from south america posting highlight videos of them on the Whitecaps facebook page. One of the problems with getting South American talent is that we don't have as much documentation on their play, where if we choose someone from Europe we have lots of access to video files.

    Good point. Much more of a crapshoot.

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  • DannyBoyDannyBoy
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    Bonjour turned out pretty good I would say. They also have some decent leagues down there which should be easy to send a scout to. Maybe the FO doesn't have anyone that speaks Spanish or Portuguese to do the job properly or just that they are eurosnobs and don't care.

  • theonewolftheonewolf
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    Not sure why the negativity. Guy is a step up from letoux.pretty good numbers in good leagues.

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  • RaybanOriginalRaybanOriginal
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    No thanks. One dimensional striker already well covered on this team. Defensive cover and creative mid/wing need only apply.

  • CanadianspurCanadianspur
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    Unless we are getting rid of one of Hassli, Camilo or Mattocks then we don't need another center forward in Rennies system...pass.

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  • GoFGoF
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    Not too sure about this. Miller is very much like Boyd (who can be great, can be a lazy fucker) in that both can score at will when in the mood.

    He can score with his foot and his head though, which we haven't seen a lot of.

    I'm thinking he (or whoever) will come in as a DP next year and we'll punt Hassli at the end of the season.

    Edited - to clarify the lazy comment was about Boyd!

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  • LawmanLawman
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    Miller is no improvement over Hassli, the only reason I can see the coach wanting is that he is a Scot. If that is the reason I think we have a problem.

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  • TheRenniesanceTheRenniesance
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    Yeah, ciao Hassli at the end of the season. Caps seemed to have moved so many players in order to get someone exciting. That shouldn't be Kenny Miller, IMO.

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  • LawmanLawman
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    TheRenniesance said: Yeah, ciao Hassli at the end of the season. Caps seemed to have moved so many players in order to get someone exciting. That shouldn't be Kenny Miller, IMO.

    agree 100%, I don't want to see Eric go. I think he could still contribute a hell of a lot.

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  • bilibili
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    What is Cardiff City?

  • LWO4LIFELWO4LIFE
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    prawnsideFC said: You can't just pick some random kid from South America off the street and expect it to be a success. It is a long process to find the proper player fit...just look at all the kids from south america posting highlight videos of them on the Whitecaps facebook page. One of the problems with getting South American talent is that we don't have as much documentation on their play, where if we choose someone from Europe we have lots of access to video files.

    Sorry but just because "we" get to witness Euro football on television doesn't mean its more documented than most of the major leagues (Mexico, Brazil and Argentina) in the Americas. Fact is the club has stronger ties with European based leagues and players and therefore is more comfortable looking at prospects there. Hopefully sooner rather than later the club will strengthen its network in the Americas because the talent pool available is younger and more willing to succeed on the whole in NA versus prolonging their careers that seems to be the m.o. of Euro transfers.

  • CanadianspurCanadianspur
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    bili said: What is Cardiff City?

    Try wikipedia

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  • LawmanLawman
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    bili said: What is Cardiff City?

    Really, public schools truly do suck then?

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  • prawnsideFCprawnsideFC
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    Lawman said:

    bili said: What is Cardiff City?

    Really, public schools truly do suck then?

    I dont know if Bili's comment was sarcastic or not...most people that have any football knowledge have heard of Cardiff I think.

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  • danrikdanrik
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    Kenny Miller is a faster, more skilled version of Sebastien Le Toux. I've seen the word lazy posted in this thread. The guy never stops running.

  • danrikdanrik
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    prawnsideFC said:

    Lawman said:

    bili said: What is Cardiff City?

    Really, public schools truly do suck then?

    I dont know if Bili's comment was sarcastic or not...most people that have any football knowledge have heard of Cardiff I think.

    And Cardiff is the largest city in Wales so people with a geographic knowledge have also heard of Cardiff.

  • bilibili
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    Scottish player playing on a Welsh team in an English League.

    If this rumour is true, the Caps are clueless.

    I have heard of Cardiff City. Ask me what league they play in or where they are from and you've stumped me. I had to look them up.

    So to look at this from a big picture view. The Caps are going to the most over exposed, most over scouted and most over covered region of the worldd to get "talent". They are surely competing against clubs with much bigger budgets for talent evaluation. And how will this help them get ahead?

  • bilibili
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    prawnsideFC said:

    Lawman said:

    bili said: What is Cardiff City?

    Really, public schools truly do suck then?

    I dont know if Bili's comment was sarcastic or not...most people that have any football knowledge have heard of Cardiff I think.

    Most people here have a very one dimensional view of soccer in that your knowledge of the game is based on the UK system of club football. Which is fine but don't assume everybody knows or cares where Cardiff is or which country they are in. My comment was sarcasism and should be equated to the reaction from most here to a rumour that the Caps were close to signing a Slovak international from an eastern euro outfit with 8 constanents in a row in their name.

    I've noticed this mostly with Italians who assume that I care aboit Serie B and english who think everyone should know Cardiff. Probably why Del Piero and anybody with a FA card are constant rumours that receive thumbs up.

  • prawnsideFCprawnsideFC
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    bili said: Scottish player playing on a Welsh team in an English League.

    If this rumour is true, the Caps are clueless.

    It is interesting how you always judge a player based on what nationality he is and where he plays. Hoilette was saying in an interview that when he first came to the EPL people didn't take him seriously because he was Canadian. But now everyone reckognizes him for the true talent that he is.

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  • LawmanLawman
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    What in the blue hell are you talking about

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  • VancouverFanVancouverFan
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    I haven't been on the forum in weeks, but came here for more news on the Miller signing and realized why I don't visit often. This forum badly needs an ignore feature.

  • Boxing_Day_MassacreBoxing_Day_Massacre
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    Robson = Scot on team finishing 7th in English Championship.
    Miller = Scot on team finishing 6th in English Championship.
    If I were a Scot playing for Blackpool (5th in English Championship) I'd make sure my agent had Rennies number on speed dial

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  • bilibili
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    prawnsideFC said:

    bili said: Scottish player playing on a Welsh team in an English League.

    If this rumour is true, the Caps are clueless.

    It is interesting how you always judge a player based on what nationality he is and where he plays. Hoilette was saying in an interview that when he first came to the EPL people didn't take him seriously because he was Canadian. But now everyone reckognizes him for the true talent that he is.

    I'm certain others did the same thing with Jarju. They were right.

    Good comment about Hoilette. But this is the exact opposite. This guy probably gets the benefit of the doubt from most of you here because of his Nationality and where he plays.

    I made the comment a couple of months ago that I found it interesting that Rennie went after a Scottish player (him being a Scot). Now I see that if this rumour is true, others are echoing my concerns.

    Again - if Rennie was Slovak and brought in a Slovak player as his first DP and then another Slovak, you would be saying the exact same things as I am. It's because you are comfortable with Scottish players in English football that you are willing to give this a chance. I could understand if Scotland had this great pedigree of talent... but it's a middling country on a downward trend.

  • bilibili
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    Boxing_Day_Massacre said: Robson = Scot on team finishing 7th in English Championship.
    Miller = Scot on team finishing 6th in English Championship.
    If I were a Scot playing for Blackpool (5th in English Championship) I'd make sure my agent had Rennies number on speed dial

    Agreed.

  • KaiKai
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    If it is indeed Kenny Miller then I'm not impressed.

    Having said that, I am definitely going to give Martin Rennie the benefit of the doubt. There's a reason he's the coach and I am not.

  • LawmanLawman
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    All I can say is Mr Rennie needs to get things right, the team is in a good spot and he is making some significant changes. I am in no way convinced by Robson and hope he is the player we all want him to be, adding another Scot so soon makes you wonder. I am hoping that everything works out, but I for one think the SPL and Scottish football is shite currently and really don't want anything to do with that model. Let's get some players in who's names we can't pronounce from else ware rather than good old laddies from kiltland

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  • slamoslamo
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    Benefit of the doubt because he's Scottish??? Wow. We're talking Soccer right?

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    We are

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  • danimaldanimal
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    slamo said: Benefit of the doubt because he's Scottish??? Wow. We're talking Soccer right?

    Benefit of the doubt, because he has pulled the right strings so far.

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  • slamoslamo
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    ^was meaning Miller.

    I'd give him the BOD based on history not nationality.

    Post edited by slamo at 2012-07-14 16:14:34
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  • bilibili
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    VancouverFan said: I haven't been on the forum in weeks, but came here for more news on the Miller signing and realized why I don't visit often. This forum badly needs an ignore feature.

    Who cares?

    Thanks for adding color on Miller signing. Take your ball home.

  • Bad_GonesBad_Gones
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    Oh, the irony.

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  • OldFanOldFan
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    bili said: Scottish player playing on a Welsh team in an English League.

    If this rumour is true, the Caps are clueless.

    I have heard of Cardiff City. Ask me what league they play in or where they are from and you've stumped me. I had to look them up.

    So to look at this from a big picture view. The Caps are going to the most over exposed, most over scouted and most over covered region of the worldd to get "talent". They are surely competing against clubs with much bigger budgets for talent evaluation. And how will this help them get ahead?

    So you are basing your player evaluation on a guy you have never seen because he plays for a club you can't find on a map?

  • OldFanOldFan
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    Also amazing people are getting so negative on this guy. Have any of you actually seen him play outside of youtube? I haven't and thus have no opinion other than I am having a lot of confidence in Rennie's judgement and feel positive if this turns out to happen.

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