Le Toux to NYRB for Richards

Bad_Gones · Post edited by Bad_Gones at 2012-07-13 16:46:12

WhitecapsFC acquire Jamaican international @DaneRichards from @NewYorkRedBulls in exchange for @SebastienLeToux - ow.ly/cesgB

Bad_Gones

Hands up ... who saw that coming?

Casper · Post edited by Casper at 2012-07-13 16:48:16

http://www.whitecapsfc.com/news/2012/07/whitecaps-fc-acquire-richards

What the hell? It was considered a coup when we brought him in for allocation money... and just like that he's back out?

Didn't Seba have his green card, making him count as a domestic? There goes another international roster spot...

piltdownman

Dane also has his residency card.

danimal

So another international spot and another whop of allocation money. The 'Caps are in good position moving forward to make more moves, too!

Kevin

This trade is highway robbery for the Red Bulls. Richards looks terrible this season

Smonkman

Kevin said: This trade is highway robbery for the Red Bulls. Richards looks terrible this season

So has Le Toux.

Brettness37

I totally saw it coming. The billboard 2 blocks from my house with him in the third kit totally gave it away.

Kevin · Post edited by Kevin at 2012-07-13 16:55:28

Smonkman said: So has Le Toux.

I'll admit that I have watched more Red Bull games than Whitecap games but Richards is easily the worst player in the Red Bulls starting 11. I don't think the same can be said of Le Toux

danimal

I sense a Brad Knighton jinx here. Each time he does a feature on roommates on the road, one of them ends up hurt or traded.

Thorrington DeDe LeToux

Coincidence?

Southside_Regular · Post edited by Southside_Regular at 2012-07-13 17:00:32

I don't like it when too many changes are made. It usually takes more time in football to get used to new team mates. However,the move is a positive one for me. Le Toux had not been effective recently and his good start to the season was a distant memory. I hope he gets back on track in the eastern conference but I think we got the better of the deal.

prawnsideFC

...woooooow so what happened to all our offensive depth? Obviously they feel the only thing not clicking this season is the offence, but wow. All I can say is they better make a big big signing coming up. I must admit I dont know anything about this Richards guy, but maybe he will mesh well with his countryman Mattocks.

Canuckred

danimal said: I sense a Brad Knighton jinx here. Each time he does a feature on roommates on the road, one of them ends up hurt or traded.

Thorrington DeDe LeToux

Coincidence?

Every time a bear shits in the woods Thorrington gets hurt! No coincidence at all.

Lord_Bob

What is this I don't even.

I mean, I like Dane Richards! But what? What? Why is? What?

danimal

The highlight video shows him doing some things the Caps could use right about now. Blowing by defenders, getting crosses over, and scoring from the midfield.

prawnsideFC

Also why do I get the feeling this team is trying to win fans over from Scotland, Switzerland and Jamaica...

FootyMonster · Post edited by FootyMonster at 2012-07-13 17:07:08

if you're looking at this from a tactical perspective and how letoux was being utilized? richardson is a better option, espacially in the 4-2-3-1 that Rennie has been playing.

dane is much faster down the wing and his touch is better than LeToux's, that bieng said, I would expect more width from the Caps now.

I like this move, it makes good football sense.

Canuckred

I'm don't know much about Richards, but I'm not sad to see letoux go. He had a great attitude and his conditioning was second to none, but he always seemed to run around like a headless chicken.

Kevin

FootyMonster said: if you looking at this from a tactical perspective and how letoux was bieng utilized? richardson is a better option, espacially in the 4-2-3-1 that Rennie has been playing.

dane is much faster down the wing and his touch is better than LeToux's, that bieng said, I would expect more width from the Caps now.

I like this move, it makes good football sense.

Richards is a very fast player, but too fast. His speed is his only asset. Hes ruined a lot of attacks the Red Bulls have created. He cost the team a win in Toronto with his giveaways.

eunited

I really love the attitude and class he brought from day one. I do agree with above comments though, he looked a little lost at times. I'm trusting Rennie on this move.

westEnder

im at a loss for words with this trade. I dont mind the trade, its just the timing of the trade that bugs me.

5 big games coming up....

Lord_Bob

Kevin said:

FootyMonster said: if you looking at this from a tactical perspective and how letoux was bieng utilized? richardson is a better option, espacially in the 4-2-3-1 that Rennie has been playing.

dane is much faster down the wing and his touch is better than LeToux's, that bieng said, I would expect more width from the Caps now.

I like this move, it makes good football sense.

Richards is a very fast player, but too fast. His speed is his only asset. Hes ruined a lot of attacks the Red Bulls have created. He cost the team a win in Toronto with his giveaways.

He also beat the everloving tar out of Alain Rochat in our game earlier this year.

Lord_Bob

We should also note the Whitecaps have also acquired Tommy Soehn's favourite player in this trade, Al Location.

TunnelBandit

Holy crap, hope we got someone good coming in. Kind of odd to sell off major parts of your team when it has been quite successful up to this point.

Javy81 · Post edited by Javy81 at 2012-07-13 17:13:53

Richards is a very fast player, but too fast. His speed is his only asset. Hes ruined a lot of attacks the Red Bulls have created. He cost the team a win in Toronto with his giveaways.

Well then he has something in common with Le Toux, he cost us a point in Toronto with his sluggish marking of Dunfield, and i believe he also cost us 2 points with his marking against NYRB. Defensive set pieces are not his strong suit.

thealbinowhino

Good move. Richards was causing our back line fits with this speed when they played a few weeks back. We need some of that out wide. With Le Toux playing out of position with all our strikers it makes perfect sense. Allocation money too.

Javy81 · Post edited by Javy81 at 2012-07-13 17:13:28

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TunnelBandit

Heard Rennie is a rastafarian in his personal life and is trying to get as many of the Reggae Boyz here as possible. Ryan Johnson up next.

danimal

Here's hoping for LeToux to score against Seattle on Sunday.

TunnelBandit

That or he was pulling his hair out every time Seba passed the ball to the opposing team and finally had enough of it.

ShahryarAhkami

I guess we now know who was supposed to be marking Terry Dunfield on the cross Wednesday....

Lord_Bob

Look, Dane Richards is good. He fills a serious need on right wing. But if you're looking to improve your team's defending, particularly in the air late in games, moving Sebastien Le Toux for Dane Richards is the opposite of how you do that.

Seathanaich

Wow. Chiumiento and LeToux in three days. A little shell-shocked.

If this guy is a winger as good as Salgado was starting to be, then this is a brilliant move - we have too many centre forwards and not enough spots for them to play in. If this guy is as bad as Kevin (and other New Jersey Caffiene Drink fans are saying), then this could turn out to be the week our season went off the rails. Here's hoping not.

LeToux demonstrated how forwards pressurise the opposition when you don't have the ball. Chiumiento was the best example of a 2011 Whitecap buying into that. Now we'll find out if Whitecaps can continue to do that without the best example of it, and the best convert to it, in the team.

mattock

Dane Richards $181,500 - LeToux $169,000, 1/2 season difference is a $6,250 hit but we have been getting some allocation relief and Davide's $150,000 salary....could bring in 2 players perhaps.

cixceven

I think we'll see, and perhaps appreciate a little more, how much LeToux's tireless pressuring helped our defense by forcing decisions on the opponent. Hopefully it won't matter, and we'll out-score any weakening on the d side.

prawnsideFC

Honestly it's our offence that needs work, our defence for the most part has been stellar. I think they are trying to fix that...but our highly touted offensive depth has completely disappeared.

Watchmen

I liked LeToux's workrate, but not his feet of stone.

TunnelBandit

mattock said: Dane Richards $181,500 - LeToux $169,000, 1/2 season difference is a $6,250 hit but we have been getting some allocation relief and Davide's $150,000 salary....could bring in 2 players perhaps.

I believe Le Toux was also in the last year of his contract and would be looking for a raise for his next one. That may have played a part too.

Canadianspur

I really don't mind this trade. Seba was very frustrating. Hopefully Richards adds something that we need. I really think there is still one more announcement coming.

SAFC_Yank · Post edited by SAFC_Yank at 2012-07-13 18:00:12

Lord_Bob said: Look, Dane Richards is good. He fills a serious need on right wing. But if you're looking to improve your team's defending, particularly in the air late in games, moving Sebastien Le Toux for Dane Richards is the opposite of how you do that.

Granted, this isn't exactly like-for-like, but ... Dane Richards, 12 goals and 10 assists over last 2 seasons, only 1 goal and 2 assists this year. Seb LeToux, 25 goals & 20 assists over last two seasons, 4 goals & 1 assist this year. If you're telling me Seb is struggling, Richards is struggling even more.

LeToux defends far better than Richards, who has neither the strength nor the inclination to do the things Seb does.

Richards does have amazing pace, he was giving Rochat fits, but he often flatters to deceive.

Age nearly the same - within a month or so of each other. Richards in base salary is actually more than that of LeToux, so you can't even justify this on the basis of but there's always a possibility of something under the surface that changes that.

I don't get it.

Lord_Bob

Richards is mostly a winger, Le Toux mostly a striker. Comparing stats isn't comparing like with like.

piltdownman

From southsider Nate in ny

Nate Elliott said: I've seen a fair bit of Dane Richards this year, and he's very good. He's got a great engine - which I think is the kind of player Rennie likes. 45 minutes ago · Like

GoF

Next signing - Thomas the Tank

SAFC_Yank

Lord_Bob said: Richards is mostly a winger, Le Toux mostly a striker. Comparing stats isn't comparing like with like.

As I said, not exactly like-for-like. But both can really play either position - Richards was playing striker much of the match when NYRB was here. I'll add, though, that I seem to recall someone mentioning a fair number of LeToux's Philly goals were penalties, which might skew the numbers a bit.

I'm more concerned about losing the ground LeToux covered.

AussieWhiteCap

Le Toux seemed to be able to run all day. Pretty shoked he has been traded

LittleBird

Wow. Always liked Richards but Le Toux's team effort will be missed. Wow, what a crazy week all over MLS. And the Cameron transfer to Stoke may be denied by the league!

Markus

Hopefully this allows us to play wider in the midfield, and use Nanchoff or Teibert on the left, with competition from Salgado as well when he's back from injury... I'm assuming richards is a right-sided player?

AussieWhiteCap

This may be a stupid question, but I'm not 100% sure on the rules of trade.

Does this make Richards available straight away for the match in Chicago?

Mcscuzzerson

According to MLSsoccer.Com:

"Both players will be available for selection for their respective new teams this weekend, with the Whitecaps taking on the Chicago Fire (8:30 pm ET, watch LIVE online) and the Red Bulls hosting the Seattle Sounders on Sunday afternoon (4pm ET, ESPN, live chat on MLSsoccer.com)."

So... yes.

prawnsideFC

I believe so, apparently he is on his way to Chicago right now. However, if I were Rennie I wouldnt play him...maybe a late sub.

Christopher

The strange thing is that this is a fantastic move for Seba. If he hasn’t sold his home in Philadelphia yet, he could move back in. Philly is around 40 minutes (depending on where in Philadelphia he lived) from where the Red Bulls play. Kendall, Sebastien long-time girlfriend, can work in the states and is close to her home (assuming she’s from PA). And on the pitch, I think he’s more suited to Red Bull’s style than ours.

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