I thought it was 4pm... but I've been wrong on occasion...

obviously I had 4 stuck in my head for some reason. Apologies...

Tough love is whomping them 4-0 at home. This could be the turning point for getting rid of Winters and TFC cleaning house.

I feel for the supporters at this point and hope we can help out in this way.

Wrong thread

I, personally, give mega-importance to the V-Cup, because of its history and what it represents. I don't think any excuses should be made if TFC 4peats. This is the official championship of the country, and if TFC gets the job done... then they are better. I feel that league records should be thrown out the window, along with any other statistics (possession, shots on goal, etc.) Whoever has more aggregate goals proved they are better, because they won this prestigious Cup. At the end of the day, the only stat that matters is the scoreline.

I feel this is a situation that is different from the FA Cup, where its winner is NOT the country's best. Why? Because the FA Cup is not the official championship of England, the Prem is. Also, it isn't the clubs' only CL ticket. The ACC, however, _is _the only CL ticket for Canadian clubs.

That's how important I feel this is. That the winner gets the "best in Canada" title. No matter what happens in the league.

I knew a guy who was a great snooker player, but with $100 on the table and two beers in my belly I'd beat him everytime. The winner is the winner. Everything else is bullshit.

Chris said: Everyone's looking at it as an important game, but your reasoning is so flawed. Weird shit can happen over the course of 90 minutes to swing the game one way or the other. That tends to even itself out over the course of 34 games. That's why domestic champions in soccer are crowned by league results everywhere but here. It's also why people were outraged when the CSA decided to go to a knockout format over the previous round robin.

Who was outraged? Knockout is how a proper Cup competition should be played. Anything else is ridiculous.

GoF said:

Chris said: Everyone's looking at it as an important game, but your reasoning is so flawed. Weird shit can happen over the course of 90 minutes to swing the game one way or the other. That tends to even itself out over the course of 34 games. That's why domestic champions in soccer are crowned by league results everywhere but here. It's also why people were outraged when the CSA decided to go to a knockout format over the previous round robin.

Who was outraged? Knockout is how a proper Cup competition should be played. Anything else is ridiculous.

The angst on this board was ridiculous. And I wouldn't have a problem with a knockout cup if it didn't decide our only spot in the CCL.

highlander said: I hear that if we're ahead by the second half the CSA has arranged to have a meteor crass into lake Ontario to cancel the game.

Yet they cheap out on international friendlies...

danimal said: Some of us will be watching at SFU's Highland Pub then strolling over to watch the PDL match vs Fraser Valley.

Any idea how many will be watching the game there?

Can't wait for this one! I can picture Teitur's face when TFC walked off the pitch last year. Utter shite!

barca99 said: Can't wait for this one! I can picture Teitur's face when TFC walked off the pitch last year. Utter shite!

Oh Teitur..... I still feel sorry for him getting fucked over TWICE in the Canadian Championship........ he really was an outstanding man.

So did I, club (coughPaulBarbercough) didn't appreciate my criticism though ;)

Footballer said:

Chris said:

GoF said:

Chris said: Everyone's looking at it as an important game, but your reasoning is so flawed. Weird shit can happen over the course of 90 minutes to swing the game one way or the other. That tends to even itself out over the course of 34 games. That's why domestic champions in soccer are crowned by league results everywhere but here. It's also why people were outraged when the CSA decided to go to a knockout format over the previous round robin.

Who was outraged? Knockout is how a proper Cup competition should be played. Anything else is ridiculous.

The angst on this board was ridiculous. And I wouldn't have a problem with a knockout cup if it didn't decide our only spot in the CCL.

I agree with you that a Cup of this importance should be round-robin. I'd LOVE that. But it isn't, and all 4 teams have agreed to the format. Thus, no excuses for whoever loses.

Check jay Demerit's tweet regarding this game. He wants to stomp tee ef see.

Also, everyone, do not read Dewayne Rollins' latest blog posts. He acts like a disgusting pig. As always. Fat turd.

Round Robin has the pit fall of not having control of your own fate. The Caps went through that when Montreal bent over and lost by all those goals so TFC gets in on goal differential. At least with 2 leg knockouts the club has direct control over their fate. If you lose you deserved it; and it wasn't because some other team threw their match.

I'm on the Island for the week. Is anyone going to be gathering to watch this in Victoria?

I'm only five blocks from the Beagle, which I believe was at one time the designated viewing pub...

OldFan said:

Footballer said:

Chris said:

GoF said:

Chris said: Everyone's looking at it as an important game, but your reasoning is so flawed. Weird shit can happen over the course of 90 minutes to swing the game one way or the other. That tends to even itself out over the course of 34 games. That's why domestic champions in soccer are crowned by league results everywhere but here. It's also why people were outraged when the CSA decided to go to a knockout format over the previous round robin.

Who was outraged? Knockout is how a proper Cup competition should be played. Anything else is ridiculous.

The angst on this board was ridiculous. And I wouldn't have a problem with a knockout cup if it didn't decide our only spot in the CCL.

I agree with you that a Cup of this importance should be round-robin. I'd LOVE that. But it isn't, and all 4 teams have agreed to the format. Thus, no excuses for whoever loses.

Check jay Demerit's tweet regarding this game. He wants to stomp tee ef see.

Also, everyone, do not read Dewayne Rollins' latest blog posts. He acts like a disgusting pig. As always. Fat turd.

Round Robin has the pit fall of not having control of your own fate. The Caps went through that when Montreal bent over and lost by all those goals so TFC gets in on goal differential. At least with 2 leg knockouts the club has direct control over their fate. If you lose you deserved it; and it wasn't because some other team threw their match.

Very good point. Repped.

I can't sleep in anticipation of this match, and now that you brought up 2009, that horrible memory is back. That was an absolute disgrace.

Where are the threads from that match anyway? This message board looked a lot different back then. I'd like to reread those 2009 threads, just for a reminder of what is at stake tomorrow night.

^This

The rules of the tournament were there at the start for all to read. Bitching about them afterwards is just sour grapes. In the case of the "Impact Bendover" I feel the bitching is justified because the rules were "bent", but in the end it simply required one more win from the Whitecaps and whatever the Limpact did was moot.

Be prepared for no coverage of this game whatsoever tomorrow. The Canucks just extended Alain Vigneault's contract. As one of two major questions surrounding the Canucks this year, it will absolutely dominate Vancouver media coverage for the next month.

Chris said: Be prepared for no coverage of this game whatsoever tomorrow. The Canucks just extended Alain Vigneault's contract. As one of two major questions surrounding the Canucks this year, it will absolutely dominate Vancouver media coverage for the next month.

They would find a way to have Canucks coverage anyways...they just spent the last 2 weeks going over in-depth analysis of David Booth bear hunting. It's actually kind of funny that people have nothing better to do then talk about that.

bili said: If the Caps don't win this tournament, I consider this season a failure. Unless they win the MLS Cup (which they won't).

Always a beacon of hope.

for me, making the playoffs comfortably is a success. I guess it depends on who you ask. I would be HUGELY disappointed if we don't win tonight, but that wouldn't make me consider the whole season a failure in May.

Agreed making the playoffs will be a success for me. I think people are discounting our terrible year last year.

I measure success by trophies... If you don't win a trophy when you are the heavy favorite going in, that is a failure.

Playoffs are nice - but a one and done playoff appearance will not undo the failure of losing the national championship. Maybe an extended run into the playoffs will - but only time will tell.

Oldfan is smart - he knew exactly what I meant. And I agree - maybe with Robson we become much better and have a chance at MLS Cup.

bili said: If you don't win a trophy when you are the heavy favorite going in, that is a failure.

Playoffs are nice - but a one and done playoff appearance will not undo the failure of losing the national championship.

I agree. There is simply no excuse for losing to an 0-9 team in the national championship that is the only CL ticket.

The anticipation for me is higher than when the Lions were in the Grey Cup. Tonight's game is like the Grey Cup of football. 1 game for all the Canadian marbles.

Except the Grey Cup champ doesn't move on to face the Super Bowl champ. Here, the ACC champ does move on to face the Mexico champ (eventually). Pretty awesome.

I consider success and failure a lot more black and white.

Tonight is a big night in determining the result of this season.

For instance - ask a Chelsea supporter if their season was a success 6 weeks ago and they would have laughed. 6th in the league. Season going nowhere. Outsiders in the Champs League. A couple of trophies changed their tune real quick.

The exact opposite is the case for the Caps IMO. A good season, playoffs, etc will all be undone by a loss tonight.