CanMNT U23 Olympic Qualifying
  • I see via the Canada Soccer App, that the U23 Men play in a qualifying tournament in Nashville, TN in March.

    March22 vs El Salvador March24 vs USA March26 vs Cuba

    Anyone got the low-down on the roster and how good this squad is?

    Post edited by Blue_and_White_Army at 2012-03-26 19:08:25
  • CSA has seemingly dropped the ball on the roster and selection which is not surprising. I understand that USA U23 are together having a selection/training camp right now. FCE has said that Porter, Saiko and Michal Misiewicz all were invited. But they have kept everything a mystery.

    Tiebert, Morgan and Stinson would be locks depending on WCFC and TFC granting their releases. All our various academy grads could be in the mix as well like Bassi, Gage, etc.

    Would be nice to see Russell go and really make an impression.

    Post edited by fourfourtwo at 2012-02-03 14:37:48
  • I believe ex-Cap Simon Thomas has been invited to camp.

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  • ynwasouthside said: I believe ex-Cap Simon Thomas has been invited to camp.

    That's good to hear. Hopefully they will be able to get all the old academey lads together. Maybe Straith?

  • piltdownmanpiltdownman
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    El Salvador vs Canada today at 3:30 PT live on Sportsnet (One, Ont. & East) and sportsnet.ca.

    There is a joke to be had about the Toronto National Team not being on TV in Western Canada (yes I know canucks).

    Post edited by piltdownman at 2012-03-22 09:09:45
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  • Lord_BobLord_Bob
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    This incarnation of the Toronto National Team is 25% Whitecaps and ex-Whitecaps, so we have even more reason than usual to cheer for them.

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    Yeah, if TFC cared about developing Canadian talent we'd have a better chance of qualifying. Clearly TFC doesn't care about Canadian soccer.

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  • Lord_BobLord_Bob
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    slamo said: Yeah, if TFC cared about developing Canadian talent we'd have a better chance of qualifying. Clearly TFC doesn't care about Canadian soccer.

    On a serious note, TFC is holding Ashtone Morgan back from Olympic qualifying. Then their fans are bitching that the Whitecaps didn't play any Canadians last week because we sent them all to help their country.

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  • ynwasouthsideynwasouthside
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    ^We're looking awfully thin at fullback. I hope Drew Beckie can play LB. That kid who played in Uruguay (Frasenga?) didn't really impress me at the U20, and I think he's right-footed anyway.

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  • NoJoyTapNoJoyTap
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    @CanadaSoccerEN: #canm23 - CAN XI - GK-Misiewicz, 3-Teibert, 4-Attakora, 16-Beckie, 11-Stinson, 6-Bekker, 7-Alderson, 9-Saiko, 10-Haber, 17-Haworth, 20-James

  • Lord_BobLord_Bob
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    Mediocre college player Evan James starting ahead of 2.Bundesliga bench player Randy Edwini-Bonsu. Canada's best attacking option at left back. Well, I guess that's what happens when you pick your coaches because they played for Portugal back in the '80s.

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  • I like watching the youngsters from most nations competing, I'll tune in and support our boys. Let's get to the Olympics!

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    Gotta say, I like the new CMNT kits the more I see them.

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  • Lord_BobLord_Bob
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    Teibert's not looking great at LB, to the surprise of nobody on this forum. Alderson is getting the everloving tar beat out of him by a referee who apparently thinks he needs hazing.

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  • fourfourtwofourfourtwo
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    1.) I have been happy with Alderson so far. 2.) Glad the boys are just kicking it towards Haber as hard as they can, very un-Canadian. 3.) It's weird that Fonseca, Rennie and Soehn are all out to lunch on this Tiebert in defense thing. One of those 3 is not like the other. 4.) Haworth is looking okay, it will be interesting where REB come on...

  • Lord_BobLord_Bob
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    Rennie used Teibert as an attacking midfielder in every pre-season game in which he featured. Fonseca's just thick as crap. (Why is Haber playing up top? He's good when he plays further back and holds the ball up; that's how he's found success in Scotland. Everybody knows this except the same crappy staff coaches who get an infinite number of chances to ruin our national teams.)

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  • fourfourtwofourfourtwo
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    Lord_Bob said: Rennie used Teibert as an attacking midfielder in every pre-season game in which he featured. Fonseca's just thick as crap. (Why is Haber playing up top? He's good when he plays further back and holds the ball up; that's how he's found success in Scotland. Everybody knows this except the same crappy staff coaches who get an infinite number of chances to ruin our national teams.)

    In defense of Fonseca, they u23 Fullback Depth in this country doesn't seem to be there.

  • Lord_BobLord_Bob
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    Antonio Rago at FC Edmonton would be a good choice at RB to push Stinson up; he's also played more LB than Teibert has. The lack of an LB is really on Toronto FC and their refusal to let Ashtone Morgan play for his country, but Andres Fresenga is a native left back available on the bench. Another FC Edmonton alumnus, Alex Surprenant, would have been a good pick at LB.

    Post edited by Lord_Bob at 2012-03-22 16:37:24
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  • DhawkDhawk
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    now if we can just beat the states

  • Meh, I'll take a 0-0 draw. El Salvador is a developing football nation so I'll take that. Don't like Teibert as a defender, he doesn't have the attributes to do it. He's an ATTACKING winger for a reason. Haber didn't do too well, but after what Lord_Bob said, I'm not puzzled anymore.

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  • Jay_DukeJay_Duke
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    I didn't get to see the game, was at work, so any analysis would be welcome... that being said, this will not help our chances of advancing.

    Assuming both we and El Salvador lose to the US, this means we have to advance on goal differential, I assume? Lets hope most of the skilled Cubans defect before we play them.

  • barca99barca99
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    Canada came out well, but were caught more than once trying to play the ball out of the back. Those led to great goal-scoring chances that were well saved (maybe poorly taken). That seemed to spook the lads and they stopped playing the ball on the ground. Second half was all ES at the start, but the Canadians had some good scoring chances. Looked dangerous on corners. Overall a fair scoreline.

    Not sure what to expect going forward, but the US pounded Cuba, so it should come down to goal difference or if anyone can get points off the States.

  • danrikdanrik
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    I'm not liking our chances. It's going to come down to who scores more goals against Cuba between Canada and El Salvadore and El S looked much more likely to score goals today than Canada.

  • ynwasouthsideynwasouthside
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    Three of Canada's best MLS players showcased themselves at the. 2008 qualifying: Will Johnson, Andy Hainault, and Dejan Jakovic -none of whom were in the league at the time. The absolute best we'll get out of this tourney is 3 to 4 more Canadians in MLS: Drew Beckie had some good moments and he's a US citizen, so a virtual lock for MLS; Bekker is already TFC property iirc. The two guys who have to move up are Saiko and Miscliewicz. Both looked like pros already (which they are) and Saiko was the only player to join the 5-6 El Salvador players with some attacking instinct. I'd like to see more of El Masri and Davies. Both had their moments. Hopefully Frasenga comes in at RB as well.

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  • fourfourtwofourfourtwo
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    Would you guys take Nana on our team? Sounds like he could be had for a song from San Jose. Would be good to have a domestic centre half and he looked good in the air.

    Miscliewicz looked like he was about to fall asleep when the camera was close up but he played well and is aggressive in his area.

    Bryce didn't get totally over run, considering he is 6 years under age.

    Haworth made a super play (drawing two defenders) to set up Saiko in the first half and he put it into row 56.

  • ynwasouthsideynwasouthside
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    I think Nana is looking for a big contract, or he'd be playing for Yallop. He looked very strong last night. He's the only guy who can really put his MLS resume up against the top players on the US team. I'd take him as our 3rd CB if his salary demand was reasonable, but Mitchell is already filling this role nicely. I guess Nana's domestic status would be a plus though.

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    ynwasouthside said: I think Nana is looking for a big contract, or he'd be playing for Yallop. He looked very strong last night. He's the only guy who can really put his MLS resume up against the top players on the US team. I'd take him as our 3rd CB if his salary demand was reasonable, but Mitchell is already filling this role nicely. I guess Nana's domestic status would be a plus though.

    What could he demand? 80k ? I think he would be an improvement on Boxall based on roster status and room for growth.

    Hopefully him and Big Phil can play well for the rest of the tourney and get into good club situations.

  • barca99barca99
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    Used to be a big Nana fan, but I don't think he's looked good for a while now.

    Post edited by barca99 at 2012-03-23 10:05:11
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    Rudi reported TFC offered him $100k+ and he turned it down!

    He also turned down an offer from Union Berlin.

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  • fourfourtwofourfourtwo
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    No thanks then. We can wait for Stanese.

  • Lord_BobLord_Bob
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    Nana was put into a position to fail with Toronto: he looked good with the solidity and experience of Cann but he does play a little wildly and when he's a partner on a patchwork back line he can look bad. He hasn't had good coaching in a while and, of course, has struggled with injuries.

    I'd take him over Boxall, depending on the salary, but if he wants big money then forget it.

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  • ynwasouthsideynwasouthside
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    He'd be best served to make up with Yallop and go back to SJ at whatever living wage he can get. He'll get playing time there. Opara didn't look all that special to me, tbh.

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  • VanCityVillaVanCityVilla
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    From CanadaSoccer Flickr

    2012 CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying
    22 March 2012 - Nashville, TN

    Shaun Saiko
    Matt Stinson
    Michal Misiewicz
    Marcus Haber
    Drew Beckie
    Nana Attakora
    Russell Teibert
    Kyle Bekker
    Evan James
    Bryce Alderson
    Carl Haworth

  • fourfourtwofourfourtwo
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    Do you think Bekker and Alderson co-ordinate bang swooshes before each game?

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    fourfourtwo said: No thanks then. We can wait for Stanese.

    YES. I would say Daniel has way more upside. If he stays around long enough.

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  • Lord_BobLord_Bob
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    I love Stanese, but by the time he's Attakora's age Jay DeMerit will be 37. It would be a good idea to have somebody in their mid-twenties while Stanese is coming up, and Attakora fits the bill.

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  • fourfourtwofourfourtwo
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    The succession plan on the back line is definitely should be an organizational priority, hence why I mentioned Nana.

  • ynwasouthsideynwasouthside
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    Take Drew Beckie in the draft and save a few bucks. Nana needs to play, and that doesn't look like it's going to happen here.

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  • barca99barca99
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    Just read the 86 forever article about the ES game. I was wonderin this when I saw the starting line-up and then I thought no way, you HAVE to go with your best line-up, it's WAY too risky! He really screwed the pooch on this one of he did save his players for the US game, one that we have very little chance of getting anything from anyways.

    Interesting read though.

  • I kept seeing a few journalists saying that the way Michal Misiewicz was playing might convince him to switch to the Polish National Team. Very saddening to hear CANADIAN journalists saying such things.

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  • fourfourtwofourfourtwo
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    In true Voyageurs self loathing spirit, I should point out that sounded like he might be available for Greece as well!

    Great match for him, and I do hope it opens some doors above the NASL for him.

  • DutchCrunchDutchCrunch
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    Absolutely! A Canada win is sweet, but when it's combined with a US loss, it's tough to beat.

  • tim13tim13
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    We played like a team which defeated a collection of "better" players. Yes on paper the USA out matched us at most positions but as a unit we absolutely rocked the joint! Cav for MOTM easily. He is a Tevez type solid built player who cannot be shoved around and was a handful for them all night. Nice to see him get the second goal.

    The defence looked way better than they did against el Salvador and our back line was in sync all night. Our keeper? What can I say other than that is 2 games in a row that he is the reason we are looking to advance. Pity about Sodade getting injured. I was looking forward to seeing him play after all I'd heard about him. Get well soon.

  • SeathanaichSeathanaich
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    CANADA 2-0 USA.

    Tony Fonseca all of a sudden looks a lot smarter than he did 48 hours ago. Great performance and spirit from our young lads.

    Now we just need to beat Cuba, and the US needs to draw or beat El Salvador, and we win our pool, and avoid Mexico in the vital semi-final game which gives the winner a ticket to the London Olympics.

    All this after our Women beat Brazil 2-1. Nice day for Canada!

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  • rodderzzzrodderzzz
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    great performance by the young lads, just make sure the don't cock it up now

  • CanadianspurCanadianspur
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    Now we have a chance to finish top of the group and (hopefully) avoid Mexico.

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  • barca99barca99
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    What a game!!! That was the most enjoyable game in any sport that I've seen in a long time!!! All around well played, and really nice to see the academy players playing so well (Toronto and Vancouver). Give it a few years and add in more from Vancouver and Montreal and things look great.

    Waiting to hear from Lord Bob about this one as it appears that Fonseca's gamble paid off.

    Worried about the celebrations after the game as it seemed like the players thought they had accomplished their goal. Hopefully they remember that the Olympics is their goal.

    Also, as much as it pisses Canadians off (and judging by the crowd Americans too) the boys did a great job of killing the clock (particularly when the gk spent about a minute on the pitch). Not sure what happened with REB at the end though.

    Post edited by barca99 at 2012-03-25 00:07:32
  • barca99barca99
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    That US goalie looked awful on the first Canadian goal!

  • GoFGoF
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    So does anyone have the gen on what happened with REB then.

    Everything I can find is so sketchy about the whole thing.

    Watching it just now, it's bizarre.

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