Carlyle Mitchell

Lou_macari_chippy

Is going to be class for us. I thought his quality was there to see against RSL and he had a decent game. Trinidad international, only just turned 24, 6'1" good presence about him and a clean sheet in the game, excellent.

There was one point during the game where he swung a ball over from one side of the field to the other and the ball landed right on Khalfans feet, i predict this lad will be part of our core group next year.

I know it's early and he's only just signed for us, but if he improves from this point he's going to be fantastic. Looking forward to seeing more of him.

Lord_Bob

It was a very good game from Mitchell but Real Salt Lake was completely incompetent. Let's see what he does against quality opposition before we start licking each others' popsicles.

GoF

I'm looking forward to seeing more from him.

It was an unspectacular but solid and steady performance from his against RSL.

And solid and steady are certainly not two words you would use to describe the Caps defence this season.

SAFC_Yank

That ball to Khalfan stood out in my mind, too. Tall, fast, able to move the ball. Have to see in the long term if he can be physical enough, but generally he was quite impressive. Seemed already engaged with the rest of the squad, too, had his arm around Rochat talking to him at one point.

Patrick_Bateman

I thought he looked very good. Could be an excellent partner for the more rugged but less mobile DeMerit. Also, freeing up Rochat for left back is essential as he is twice as effective there as he is at centre half.

Brenton

Remember how high everyone was on Boxall after one or two games. Now he just looks like exactly what he is, a big, raw, typical English central defender. Let's be patient with our assessment of Mitchell.

BianconeroSouthsider

All I want is either him or Boxall to start with Demerit, moving Rochat to the left, and putting in Leathers at right back if he's match fit. We look so much better at the back with Rochat playing as a full back.

PBandG · Post edited by PBandG at 2011-10-08 23:21:34

Brenton said:
Remember how high everyone was on Boxall after one or two games. Now he just looks like exactly what he is, a big, raw, typical English central defender. Let's be patient with our assessment of Mitchell.

If the club was allowed to set expectations unrealistically high at the start of the season then I feel we have the right to get as pumped as we want about Mitchell :P

Ladies and gentlemen may I present to you the next Ashley Cole/Patrice Evra/Maicon CARLYLE MITCHELL!!!

I fully expect him to be among the top 25 defenders in the world one day.

Patrick_Bateman

PBandG said:
Ladies and gentlemen may I present to you the next Ashley Cole/Patrice Evra/Maicon CARLYLE MITCHELL!!!

I fully expect him to be among the top 25 defenders in the world one day.

I agree....I cannot see how after that one game vs RSL that Carlyle will not one day be spoken in the same breath as Baressi, Maldini and Beckenbauer as on of the finest defenders of all time!

Lou_macari_chippy

Sarcasm; lowest form of wit etc ;)

Sometimes you dont need 20 games to judge a player - you can just see they have all the tools in their locker to be decent - smalling and jones for man utd are examples of that.

Brenton

Smalling played 12 games for Fulham two years ago, then 16 for ManU last season. Jones played a full season at Blackburn.

BianconeroSouthsider

Brenton said:
Smalling played 12 games for Fulham two years ago, then 16 for ManU last season. Jones played a full season at Blackburn.

This.

RandomWhiteMale

I thought Mitchell had an excellent first game. He was fast and physical and played with a great degree of confidence. I look forward to seeing if he can provide more of the same over the next few matches.

I'm not sure how I felt about him rolling around on the grass for 5mins in a game where his team was leading (2-0 at that point, I think), however. I'd like to believe that this wasn't an act, but when he reemerged into play, he made a 20yd sprint toward the opposite sideline. He was either exaggerating the original injury, or his body heals at the same rate as Wolverine.

Brenton

I find the knocks that I get playing are short and easy to recover from, but hurt like a hot damn for a while. A cleat to the ankle bone kills for about a minute, and you don't want to run or walk for that time. But give it a minute and you can run just fine.

DannyBoy

It's also called time wasting and disrupting the flow of the game. Something we haven't been doing much of when we've had leads in the past. We all bitch and moan when the opposition does it, but it's ok when we need to do it.

Lou_macari_chippy

Is he injured now? thought he had another decent game (against DC) until he game off with what looked like an injury, other than one time when he was caught in possession i thought he played well and his distribution of the ball was excellent. Hope it's nothing serious if he is hurt.

TunnelBandit

He's looking good so far. Could turn out to be a real steal.

I read somewhere this morning (Weber in The Province?) that he tweaked a groin. Didn't say how serious.

AJAX79

YA, I HEARD THAT IT WAS STIFFNES AND HE WAS TAKEN OFF AS A PRECAUTION.

Canadianspur

Carlyle played another decent game. There were a few moments when I thought the defence looked a little rattled. He didn't seem to win as many balls in the air as he did last match but all in all he continues to show promise.

As to the injury, I think TS said on the post game showthat he was leaning towards leaving him behind for the trip to Dallas and not risk aggravating the groin but a decision would be made after he was examined by the physios this morning.

RaybanOriginal

His long balls last night were unreal. fact.

Canadianspur

"unreal" as in they didn't happen? :p

TunnelBandit · Post edited by TunnelBandit at 2011-10-13 12:47:06

RaybanOriginal said:
His long balls last night were unreal. fact.

Is that a groin joke? :-?

If so, well played.

brrrrrradley

I think in the 1st half I counted 4 long/cross-field passes either hitting a player in stride or right on the mark, handled with ease by the recipient. Only one I noticed that didn't work for him. That type of distribution is a real luxury coming from a centreback. A nice complement to Demerit's short pass game. I am Really looking forward to what he can do over the long haul.

Jay_Duke

Mitchell hasn't faced any quality strikers yet, either.

He's been good in both games played, but Wolff and Arnoux are not exactly guys defenders fear is hiding under their beds when the light goes out.

Brenton

Maybe not, but Wolff isn't shit either.

mayday

Ok, here we go, chance to really impress on the big stage in front of 50,000

capsclown123

He's done decent today.

valleywhitecaps

Hopefully you wrote that before Seattle's second goal.

vancouversoccerman

Despite the result, he played well. Not the level of DeMerit or Bonjour, but certainly his best match as a Whitecap.

VanCity_Piker

Too bad, he was decent last year, but he is done. Two games, two dismal marking efforts.

mayday

capsclown123 said: He's done decent today.

VanCity_Piker said: Too bad, he was decent last year, but he is done. Two games, two dismal marking efforts.

I'll be generous and say he played like our 4th choice center back

capsclown123

valleywhitecaps said: Hopefully you wrote that before Seattle's second goal.

I did, his fault for that second goal.

ClaytonA

FWIW from what I've seen (and I'll be glad when Bonjour and Demerit are back starting), he's no worse than Jordan Harvey was at the start of the year.

Harvey's gotten better-hopefully Mitchell can pick it up in the practices and reserve league games and keep getting better.

Lawman

Christ is everyone going to jump on the young man when he has not been played most of the season, he is young enough to be a player we devlop to get to the level that our staters are at, seeing that the rest of them are not particularly young that may not be a bad idea. I have way bigger concerns with a certain Kenny Miller and his lack of offense.

vancouversoccerman

Exactly...Young players make mistakes, but they eventually turn into veterans. Mitchell can make it as a pro. If we're lucky, a good enough pro to play for us.

Seathanaich · Post edited by Seathanaich at 2012-08-18 17:08:30

Agreed. I give Rennie credit for playing him today rather than doing his favourite AR-into-the-middle JH-in-at-leftback thing, because that makes us weaker in two positions rather than just one. If he'd had six starts this year instead of two I suspect the team would be stronger with no change in the results we've had (or maybe even better results, given the howler JdM had after the All Star game). I certainly don't think he played "badly" today, or was culpible on goal two.

He gives some long passes away (I remember two from today). He sometimes lunges at things he should be more cautious on. But if doing that is a crime, then all the other centre backs are guilty of it on occassion too. One up-side about CM, that hasn't happened in an MLS game but HAS in reserve matches, is that the guy can score from corner kicks. If he got a few more MLS games I'd like to see him do that.

LittleBird

I don't think he was that bad either. You can do a lot worse for a fourth-string CB (just look at what Toronto is trotting out).

Brenton

As above, a few giveaways that could have (but didn't) hurt us, and a few poor reads (one egregious one on Johnson that forced Koffie into a foul and a card, I think). But he was decent considering how many competitive matches he's played all season. His positioning was quite good at times in the second half, led to a few clean interceptions.

He should have done better on the second goal, but before the ball was moved over to Evans I was yelling to get someone to cover him. He was sooooooo open, for quite some time.

SAFC_Yank

It was far from perfect, and his possession was surprisingly poor compared to what I remembered last season, but there were some very good plays, too.

Glad to see him out there, I hope we give the guy time, and opportunities, to develop, because long-term he might end up quite good.

Hammer

His first ten minutes were dire. He gave the ball away at least three times in dangerous positions. I can see why Rennie doesn't rate him. He's not very composed back there.

VanCity_Piker

I like him, and I think he shows promise. However, I don't think Rennie has the patience to wait for him to develop. Ergo, we won't be seeing him again. It's a pity that he was thrown to the wolves in Seattle.

chauchi09

Decent positionally and handled Johnson quite well. he's distribution was pretty awful though. Glad to see him in there thou rather than AR pushed in and Harvey used at left back.

StateSide_Cap

Didn't think he was all that bad, but nothing special. Long passing was not up to his usual standards, but I think he's a much better option than Rochat in the middle.

SAFC_Yank

VanCity_Piker said: I like him, and I think he shows promise. However, I don't think Rennie has the patience to wait for him to develop. Ergo, we won't be seeing him again. It's a pity that he was thrown to the wolves in Seattle.

I would have questioned Rennie's patience, too, but when O'Brien was signed, Rennie talked about having young players there who eventually were going to be very good, but weren't ready yet. Mitchell would be the most likely subject of that remark.

And I wouldn't expect to see much of him this year, I think the key point for him is the next preseason.

ynwasouthside

Not sure how many of our international spots expire next season, but you'd think he and Barbara would be the first casualties.

Seathanaich

Doesn't Harris take an international spot? If so, I'd release him before those two. Barbara didn't look as bad as Harris did.

Chris

Seathanaich said: Doesn't Harris take an international spot?

He does not. I would still release him before those other two.

saltybugR

in the off-season, i would guess there r at least 4 other players than CM who will be let go- harris, watson, barbera and thorrington IF he gets another major injury; the caps still need better quality depth IMO; so CM and probably harvey are riding a bubble as to next season

SAFC_Yank

saltybugR said: in the off-season, i would guess there r at least 4 other players than CM who will be let go- harris, watson, barbera and thorrington IF he gets another major injury; the caps still need better quality depth IMO; so CM and probably harvey are riding a bubble as to next season

Mitchell is helped because he's on the minimum senior salary. If there's an international spot available, he's an easy guy to keep unless his contract is expiring.

Grandstander

For those not happy with Mitchell, had Rochat been there, we would have been burned even worse. Pause for thought.

OldFan

Carlyle would have fit in great last year..... not good enonugh for MLS. He should not be around for next season.

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